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September 2023

nickrout Solution Institution

Bought a Green this morning. Not that I need one, but thought I might set up HA at the office and the Green is tidier than my normal wire jumble.

Joined the forum November 2016, so here 7 of those 10 years. Congrats on the milestone.

September 2023

ha15

Looking forward to gifting a couple of Home Assistant Greens out to people I know will love and enjoy them. Great work to all on the team and in the wider community. Thanks!

September 2023

ve6rah

I’d like to know how the change from durability to sustainability which specifically emphasizes saving electricity squares with the fact that this bug CPU usage bumped from 2% to 10% after Operating System 10.0 upgrade (caused by containerd) · Issue #2476 · home-assistant/operating-system · GitHub has been open since April, and still doesn’t have anyone assigned to it, despite reports by many people.
But meanwhile we’re wasting time changing the logo, and the wording of the mission statement.
Sounds like a lot of corporate jargon, while completely losing touch with the reality of what users actually care about.

September 2023

CaptTom

Congratulations on 10 years! I’ve been around for not quite half of that, and I have to say that HA is one of a kind; a welcome open-source port in a storm of corporations trying to monetize my every action.

That said, I do see where @ve6rah is coming from. New logos, pointless UI tweaks and a lack of focus on the underlying core functionality can make HA look more “corporate.” Off-loading the administrative overhead to Nabu Casa made sense, but at some point there’s the risk of letting the tail wag the dog. Are paid designers there to make our lives easier, or to fill their resumes with new and shocking designs which will make news in designer circles?

OK, that sounds pretty dark. We haven’t gotten there yet. But it’s a future that we should keep in mind, and try to avoid. I’ve seen more than one open-source project “go corporate.” It never ends well.

September 2023

tom_l

Happy Birthday Home Assistant :partying_face:

You’ve come a long way in 10 years. What will the next ten bring?

September 2023

EndUser

Happy Birthday HA, I think the world of you and am very happy with HA & my Yellow Box.

This being said, making news out of a new logo is pointless for many of us and it does indeed make you look like any commercial corporation. I am more interested in getting a clear ‘corporate’ status report on why MyQ integration is not working and when it will be resolved.

But again, all of you working at and with HA, thanks for doing a great job.

September 2023

andrewhoover

Happy Birthday Home Assistant!
I’ve been using HA for 5 of those 10 and despite the growing pains, I believe that the project is headed in the right direction.
Hopefully, with the introduction to of the Green, new users will have a viable plug and play startup experience. I think that the Yellow was victim to bad timing(all things Pi disappearing) and sticker shock for newbies.

As for the logo, it’s fine. Yeah, I’m probably also in the camp of “I liked the old one better” but the new one is fine. I just liked the house look of the older one better. It’s personal preference and the new one does look more modern and would likely scale much better too.

Some of us hold on to the past too long. It has been a problem in this community for a long time. “I like my yaml!” :smiley:

I am really excited to see HA mature to the point where I feel like I can give it to my parents. It’s not quite there yet but I can see the day coming. That’s a big deal. As soon as a year ago, I don’t think I would have been that optimistic.

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September 2023

SamsHomeAutomation

Happy Birthday Home Assistant.

Thank you for being part of my life for 8 years. I have always dreamed of having a smart home but never had the budget to buy the systems i have worked on for years. Thanks you all you developers for bringing smart home to the hobbyist and tinkerers like myself.

Keep up the good work and here’s to the next 10 years. Cannot wait to see whats next.

Again Many thanks and Happy 10th Birthday

September 2023

Jpsy

Happy birthday Home Assistant!
I joined you 5 years ago and enjoyed your services every single day since then. Your success story is simply amazing. I am so curious about your future and it makes me proud to be a tiny part of it.

September 2023

Sid

“Today we’re launching an often requested feature for Home Assistant Cloud: support for custom domains.”
The above quote from your blog is a great new feature, and much appreciated. Thank you for making this easy. It works very well for me.

September 2023

Nick4 Regular

Congrats and well done guys!
Interesting to get some insight on how it started.

Up to the next 10years.

September 2023

rarroyo

Happy Birthday HA!!
Next year lets make it the “Year of the front end”.
I think that’s the next thing that needs some love. :wink:

September 2023

rob0225

My biggest fear is Home Assistant gets bought out by large competitor or someone wanting to quickly get into the home automation business. We all know what would happen then.

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September 2023 ▶ rob0225

Mats789

Yes, we will fork it and continue, open source you know :slight_smile:

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September 2023 ▶ Mats789

robi

I feel a fork would already worth it…

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September 2023 ▶ robi

Mats789

Nothing stands in your way …

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September 2023

aceindy

Happy birthday HA. and thanks for building an awesome community with awesome people!

I’ve been around now since dec 2019, and haven’t regretted a day.
Even managed to contribute an integration for my pellet stove (and it seems it is even used by some :grin:)

Up to the next 10 years !!!

September 2023

nickrout Solution Institution

Except the ability and institutional knowledge to keep it going…

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September 2023 ▶ nickrout

Mats789

You are probably right :unamused: But I have good faith in this community :slight_smile:

September 2023 ▶ rob0225

paddy0174

Won’t happen! :wink: :slight_smile:

  1. HA is open-source, if someone like a company wants to use it, it already can. It’s the push of a button to fork the repo and you have all you need. No costs involved!

  2. For you and everyone else goes the same. Fork the repo and have a fun ride. :laughing:

  3. To get anything out of a buy, you’d need to convince nearly all current developers and team members to move away from practically all they live and worked hard for. Paulus said something in a sidenote, that I found very reassuring, not just because I know that feeling, it’s why I changed my profession some 25 years ago…

    There is something very satisfying about making things change in the real world from your code.

    Paulus Schousten via HA blog
    It’s a the way you want to live your life, and if you can afford it by doing what you’re doing, you have reached a major life goal. From there on, the only chance to get these people to another job, is something more interesting, something challenging. And for the moment, I highly doubt there would be something on the horizon. These guys love what they do, it’s their baby, they would only give it up, if the other thing is so much more interesting, like flying to Mars… :slight_smile:

I know how that must sound for a “normal” person, but coders and hackers are different people. :slight_smile:

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September 2023

aceindy

There are already 24.800 forks of HA-core :grin:

Developers need a fork in order to add/debug/improve the code and create pull-requests :wink:

September 2023

finity Regular

It’s not holding onto the past. It’s holding onto the better functionality of what made HA what it is today.

I honestly think that if HA started out today with it’s emphasis on creating/maintaining everything via a UI (like countless other automation platforms do) then it wouldn’t be as popular as it is.

It’s as popular as it is BECAUSE of that finer grained control via yaml and jinja for the advanced users along with the newer UI stuff for the newer/less techie users.

without the old stuff there wouldn’t likely have been the new stuff because there would be nothing to build upon.

October 2023

brent20

Congrats! i’ll never forget spinning up version 0.38 and trying to figure out YAML for the very first time. I remember getting frustrated and giving up, then a month later trying again and getting the hang of it and never looking back :slight_smile: