[94.3] Confusion in new config UI

I’m having a hard time understanding how to start using the new configuration UI. I figured out that in order to set the HA options in the UI by commenting the homeassistant section of configuration.yaml. However, I don’t see a way to set my latitude/longitude in the UI, so the map is blank. If I enable the homeassistant section in the .yaml file, then the UI reports that I can’t edit anything because the configuration is active in configuration.yaml. Also, if I have the .yaml commented and I try to customize an entity, it tells me my changes won’t take effect because my configuration.yaml doesn’t have the homeassistant section setup properly to include the customize.yaml. It seems to be making me go around in circles. So how do I do this properly? I would ultimately like to:

  • Use the new configuration UI but be able to set my latitude/longitude.
  • Customize my entities using the UI and have them be loaded and working.
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I had the issue with the blank window. I had to zoom out with my mouse wheel until it appeared and then zoom into the right location and clicked it. After I had saved that it has always shown correctly.

I got the customize error as well. You need to have your configuration.yaml to be

homeassistant:
  customize: !include customize.yaml

Ok, I’ll give that a try. But doesn’t having the homeassistant section enabled at all cause you to not be able to edit via the UI? I mean once I set the location as you describe above, then I guess it really doesn’t matter since all the info will be there and I shouldn’t need to edit it again, but I’m just curious if that’s expected that you need to comment the .yaml, edit via the UI, then re-enable the .yaml section to get the customizations.

Thanks for the help.

no.

It only means you can’t configure anything that is already configured in the homeassistant: section.

if you only have customize: set in homeassistant you should still be able to configure everything else in the ui.

if you add lat or long then you can then edit everything else in the UI besides those two things.

At least that’s the way it’s supposed to work. I think…:slightly_smiling_face:

Okay, so what I’m seeing is if anything other than the customize: key is under homeassistant: in configuration.yaml, the UI is disabled. As long as the only thing you have is the customize: key, then the UI remains active.

BTW, for setting latitude/longitude via the map in the UI, keep clicking to move the location pointer closer to where you want it as you zoom in, otherwise after some period of time the map resets back to where it was before. For instance, I’m in the Los Angeles area, but the location pointer starts somewhere close to Africa. I would recenter the map and keep zooming in on LA, but at some point before I could get to the right place, the map would reset and I would be back in Africa again. I had to zoom out to see the US, click somewhere around the southwest, zoom in, then keep clicking to get the pointer closer and closer to where the correct location until I was able to set the exact location.

Thats why i think the gui config in this case is kind of silly.

The config required in the homeassistant: section is a one time configuration that you will likely never ever touch again once you do it the first time.

That and for the few things that it will eliminate from there while leaving all of the other stuff in it (customize, global customize, packages, whitelistings, etc, etc) I just think it overcomplicates things.

I think it would be better accomplished if they want to remove that cobfig from the homeassistant: section is to just make those settings part of the on-boarding process just like setting up your first username and password.

Yeah, I’m just going to go back to the old way and forget the UI version. I’ve found what appears to be a bug. While I moved the location marker on the map to my home, restarted and it now shows it there, when I bring up the map, it’s zoomed out to a world view and the home icon is still over by Africa, but my home zone is around my house where it should be. My wife’s icon doesn’t go away when it’s in the home zone. Seems it’s a little confused about where my home location really is.

presume that it is a proper bug. Had the same deal, but it was random. So at some point i thought “i’am gonna win this” and in the end i did. Dozens of times zooming in and out :slight_smile: