🔥 Advanced Heating Control

[panhans]

@tco95ttocs

for more flexibility, would it be possible to do that with a scheduler? when yes how should it look like?

Schedules supports custom attributes but they aren’t configureable using the UI atm. It’s possible to solve this with the custom schedule integration.
Keep in mind if you’re using the heating plan you default comfort entity will be set. So don’t use it in the adjustments.

@kitus
Could you try to disable physical change? It’s just a guess. What exactly is a.H. Jan and a.h. Pol? A tracelog of the moment when the temperature changes back would be helpful.

@Mar1us
You have to set the schedules you want to chose from in your configuration as well.

@thedju Sorry could you explain your problem again?

@david.jirovec Hey, yould you explain to me what exactly doesn’t work for you? Maybe it’s better to open an issue in my github.I’m losing track a bit here.

Sorry @all I’am a little busy atm.

[P6Dave (Dave Forrester)]

I’m getting some bizarre swings in current temperature from a couple of my rooms, causing the heating to fire or not when the temperature is just fine. Here’s one of the charts showing current temperature jumping from 12°C to 25+°C then back to actual room temperature. The chart includes the room presence and the temperature device the room heating is measuring from (the reddish line).

It often does this for a while then settles down, sometimes not. It’s a Tado system and if I check the Tado app, the current temperatures match what Home Assistant is telling me and the offset in Tado seems quite large. I’m wondering if this is a calibration issue?

Here’s the automation yaml:

alias: Cloakroom Heating
description: Controls heating in the Cloakroom only
use_blueprint:
  path: panhans/advanced_heating_control.yaml
  input:
    input_temperature_eco: input_number.heating_eco_temperature
    input_trvs:
      - climate.cloakroom
    input_temperature_comfort: input_number.heating_comfort_temperature_cloakroom
    input_force_max_temperature: input_boolean.boost_heating
    input_min_instead_of_off: true
    input_persons:
      - person.david_forrester
      - person.gem_forrester
    input_people_entering_home_duration:
      hours: 0
      minutes: 0
      seconds: 30
    input_people_leaving_home_duration:
      hours: 0
      minutes: 1
      seconds: 0
    input_presence_sensor: binary_sensor.cloakroom_occupied
    input_presence_reaction_on_time:
      hours: 0
      minutes: 0
      seconds: 10
    input_presence_reaction_off_time:
      hours: 0
      minutes: 5
      seconds: 0
    input_scheduler_presence: schedule.general_heating_schedule
    input_away_offset: 2
    input_away_presence_mode: true
    input_away_presence_ignor_people: true
    input_windows:
      - binary_sensor.cloakroom_window_contact
    input_mode_winter: input_boolean.cloakroom_heating_on
    input_temperature_sensor: sensor.h5075_b444_temperature
    input_calibration_key_word: offset
    input_calibration_generic: false
    input_generic_calibration_offset: 3
    input_calibration_timeout:
      hours: 0
      minutes: 0
      seconds: 30
    input_custom_condition_calibration:
      - condition: state
        state: "off"
        entity_id: input_boolean.we_are_in_bed

We have this blueprint running in 7 rooms. 5 of those room do not exhibit this behaviour. The rooms are all set up exactly the same

[aflextwin]

Does this work for heat/AC simultaneously, and if so how would I configure that?

I currently have a nest thermostat, which let’s me set both heat/cool within a range. Heat will turn on when temp drops below 68, and AC will turn on when temp exceeds 78.

It’s not clear to me if this even allows for cooling. Can you confirm? If not, the title and this are confusing “room based heating / based on”

[schlotzi]

Is the documentation not available for a reason?

kind regars

[sprat (Jack)]

Hi,

I was wondering if there is a way to shut down rooms if they haven’t had any motion? or the best way to achieve something similar.

If everyone is down stairs most of the day or if its a weekend can I shutdown the heating in the office upstairs, but then if there is motion restart it?

Thanks in advance

[tco95ttocs]

you can use the “presence Detection” for that or the “on/off automation options” and the “wintermode”!

[P6Dave (Dave Forrester)]

If you’re using presence detection, that’s what the Away Temperature Offset is for

[sprat (Jack)]

ah great thanks guys i’ll take a look.
I presumed it was more for if the house was in away mode type situation not a per room.
thanks for clarifying

[Rapha0000 (Raphael)]

Would it be possible to have an option to set the transmitted temperature setpoint for the liming protection?

I had the case where the setpoint of the thermostat was set back correctly after one minute (and it was reflected correctly in Home Assistant), but it seems like it was not transmitted to the actual TRV via Zigbee, so it stayed heating at maximum temperature.

[thedju]

OK apologies for the scattered approach. Will try to re-explain as best as I can

Here’s the equipment I have:

• two nest thermostats one for each floor. The ‘Downstairs’ thermostat controls flow of hot water into the whole system for the radiators on the ground floor of the house. The ‘Upstairs’ theremostat controls the rad in the upstairs.
• Smart thermostats (TRVZB)
• Temp sensors (SNZB-02D)

For each room upstairs (4 rooms) I have installed a temp sensor and a smart TRV. At the moment, only the ‘Upstairs Nest Thermostat’ controls whether hot water flows through the pipe and I would like to change this by having HomeAssistant controlling the flow to each radiator in each room independently. The ‘Nest Upstairs Thermostat’ would then become an on/off switch effectively and it’s position becomes completely moot.

From our previous discussion, what i understood was that I need one automation using the blueprint for each room upstairs whereby the thermostats/climates is effectively the TRV of that room and where the room temperature sensors is effectively the SNZB-02D for the given room. I think for that part i can take the blueprint off the shelve. However, to make the boiler on/off switch whenever a TRV is on heat mode you kindly suggested the following code:

- platform: template
    switches:
      heating_upstairs:
        value_template: >
          {% set climates = ['climate.TRV_UPSTAIRS_1',
                   'climate.TRV_UPSTAIRS_2',
                   'climate.TRV_UPSTAIRS_3'] %}

          {% set heat = climates | expand | selectattr('state','in',['heat','auto']) | list | count > 0 %}

          {% set result = namespace(r=none) %}

          {% for climate in climates %}
            {% if result.r == none %}
              {% set result.r = state_attr(climate,'temperature') > state_attr(climate,'current_temperature') %}
            {% else %}
              {% set result.r = result.r or state_attr(climate,'temperature') > state_attr(climate,'current_temperature') %}
            {% endif %}
          {% endfor %}

          {{ heat and result.r }}

        turn_on:
          action: climate.set_temperature
          data:
            hvac_mode: heat
            temperature: 30 #max temperature
          target:
            entity_id: climate.NEST_UPSTAIRS #your nest thermostat
        turn_off:
          action: climate.set_hvac_mode
          target:
            entity_id: climate.NEST_UPSTAIRS #your nest thermostat
          data:
            hvac_mode: off

My question is quite basic… and apologies for this. Where do I insert that bloc. Do I append this at the yaml generated by the blueprint for each room I am setting up for?

Many many thanks again for all your precious time and help.

[krystm]

This is a fantastic Blueprint but I had a question as I wasn’t sure what my optimum way to set this up would be, but I really need to get away from my old simple node red config that I made. When I went to set this up to at least be similar to my current config I ran into a potential issue or maybe could be a suggestion if I just missed it.

I am using a HA Helper and taking the average of multiple temperature sensors in the room. This mostly due to size of the room and one sensor being close to where we are vs say one by the door. Is there a way to use a helper / or multiple sensors in the same room to create that average? Then make that room the target for specific period of time. Say if I used 70F as my target temp, after 9pm, it will run the HVAC until the sensors in that room avg to 70F. Just myself and wife so not super worried about other rooms being drastically different.

Currently I am looking to generally target 2 rooms. 6a-9pm Living Room and then 9p-6a Master Bedroom. I am using Node Red and then the Avg of each room and a time range to turn on/off.

I feel your blueprint will massively allow me to open this up and account for things like vacation / party modes but looking for suggestions on how I should set it up in my particular case to get started. If there is a RTFM section I missed feel free to kindly point me in that direction as well.

I should also mention I have and still reading though everything. I am seeing the Off If above/below temp which is most likely what I will need to start with but still wondering about the sensors if there is a way to group them / make rooms etc.

One more edit, I think I am on the right path but please let me know if there are better ways. Appears I need to make an automation for each (like I did with node red). So Set HVAC to Cool, Pick a sensor (for now Ill use the most central in the room), add a schedule, and then set comfort temp and the On/Off if above/below? And then from there I can start playing with the other settings, party mode / presenence etc. But also another question is since temps are super wild here, I do see the outside variance would I use that so summer it always stays cool and wont trigger heat and then if falls outside that then heat can be used it if it meets the req? At night we like a cooler room so even if the room drops to low 60s we are ok with that and wouldnt want heat on or should I just make that the trigger to turn on heat?

OK after a lot of stumbling and research I think I got it. Since in TX currently days are high enough to require Cooling so I set schedules, targeted the sensor in the room for each automation. I made one Heating Automation to see if I got it right, I used the additional Outside temperature threshold so when its low overnight it will turn on. So I think I got that right lol I am for sure interested to hear thoughts esp on use of combined temperature sensors.

Many Thanks In Advance!

[david.jirovec]

Is there any way to make the manual temperature changes against schedule temporary? For example now schedule says 21, I change to 23, it stays 23 until next scheduled change. I would like something like: schedule says 21, I change to 23, but after one hour temperature is automatically changed back to 21.

[Rapha0000 (Raphael)]

Bug:
When the thermostat is switched off by the outside temperature sensor or weather entity, and the thermostats are set to go to a low temperature instead of off, this triggers the physical change detection and saves the low temperature as preset value.

[Bonzenpaule]

Hi!

I have a question regarding the calibration feature.

So far, I have enabled the generic calibration option with a 5 degree offset. So I think the blueprint didn’t calibrate anything. And I calibrated my thermostat myself by measuring the difference between the temperature of the thermostat and the temperature at a specific location. So, so far, I have had a fixed calibration.

But now I am thinking about using the calibration of the blueprint and I have a question regarding my setup:

• I’m using 2 thermostats for a big living room

• In this room I have 3 temperature sensors (2 motion sensors and 1 humidity+temperature sensor) and the 2 temperature sensors of the thermostats

• I have grouped all 5 temperature sensors (3 dedicated + 2 from the thermostats) together for a “room temperature sensor helper”

• I’m using this helper / group for the automation as a room sensor

Now my question: Is it smart to have the temperature sensors of the thermostats inside the group? Or is the calibration error-prone because the thermostats are basically calibrating themselves to small part (1 of 5)?

[Anduviel (Michi)]

Hi, I have a question.

I am new to HA and have just set up all my home automation devices.
I have Tado radiator thermostats that I want to control with this blueprint.

I configured some Aqara window sensors so that when the windows are open, the Tado thermostats turn off and turn back on when the windows are closed.
Turning them off with this blueprint works really well, but they stay off when the windows are closed again.

Any advice on how to fix this?

[tco95ttocs]

try to enable the legacy restore option under the window&door detection

[susankeaton (susan)]

Features heating cooling based on people presence, multiple schedulers, presence sensor proximity aka geo fencing, away temperature offset, frost … I’d recommend creating all of your heaters (and corresponding temp sensors) as generic thermostats . This will human benchmark allow you to use all of home assistants built in All day’ or ‘Once’, means the heating will switch on at the first ‘on’ setting you have programmed and then remain on until the last ‘off’ setting of the day. ‘Boost’ or 1hr’ switches the heating on for a one hour ‘boost’ of heat. 'Advance

[Moet (Markus)]

hi!
I wanted to ask if there is a holiday functionality?
Something i can set globally to “on” and a specific temperature will be set? kind of like the “winter mode” but not off…
The away Mode seems like the closest but do i manually need to set the away modes on each device?

thanks for the help!
regards,
Markus

[tco95ttocs]

i use a shedule selector to set different schedules (normal, away, holiday), so try to use different shedules for different situations!
The active shedule in the shedule selector can also be set outside the automation!
For holidays i combined it with the calendar, if the calendar says “holiday” the selector is set to holiday otherwise it is set to “normal”!

[Moet (Markus)]

with the shedule selector cant i only shedule different times when eco instead of comfort is set?