AI Frustration!

tried haos in a vm which was a real chore to work with so currently running a container in docker on ubuntu 24.4.03 under vmplayer 17 win10pro … now have tried twice using AI to load HA supervisor on to a lenovo M73 with 12G Ram and a 1T SSD … Both have FAILED 24.4.03 Ubuntu server (reason unsupported) and then Debian 12 (reason unsupported) … I have 40+ years of automation and embedded systems experience but by no means a linux guru so asked both copilot and gpt for assistance … both claim these paths would be 100% reliable and both failed … I went looking on the site for requirements and can’t even find this supposed supervisor version of HA … can someone please provide me a link to this documentation Thanks

Don’t use LLM’s to speak HA.
The model training is months behind the updates that happen weekly. It is a waste of time.
Models are trained from here and facebook and reddit and all the other people asking questions with failed code as well as the answers to that code.
You are wasting your time.

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  • Home Assistant Operating System: An embedded, minimalistic operating system designed to run the Home Assistant ecosystem on single board computers (like the Home Assistant Green or a Raspberry Pi) or Virtual Machines. It is the most convenient option in terms of installation and maintenance and it supports add-ons. Home Assistant Operating System is the recommended installation type for most users.
  • Home Assistant Container: Container-based installation of Home Assistant. You need to bring your own system (such as Linux) with container orchestration (like Docker), and manually handle updates. Home Assistant Container installations don’t have access to add-ons.
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This should be the most usable way to install HAOS and run HA with a supervisor. What was your challange here? I can only think of USB sticks and making them work, but please elaborate

FWIW, i moved from HAOS to dockers without superviser and maintain other docker images, that would be add-ins in haos, myself. It’s little more work, but very doable (in portainer setup btw).

appreciate the feedback … yes ai was a waste of time … full stop! … several days of failed install attempts plus a botched amazon purchase (wifi dongle that wasn’t linux compatible being recommended by ai) … et all …

ok a bit of background … I have been using x10 since 1981 combined with an apple 2+ I created a home automation system with and automated answering machine with remote access to my alarm system … in 1991 I migrated this system to windoz using a 286 and xtalk mk4 … this system is still running 24-7-365 on an xp machine …this spring a prime x10 component failed (sump pump monitor) resulting in a costly flood mitigation so I introduced some insteon products in to the mix … loaded HAOS on a PI and proceeded to try and migrate my existing x10 and insteon components to this new environment … the PI 4B with 1G ram was just too underpowered so moved HAOS to a VM on a Windoz 10 pro machine … while HAOS had some interesting features I was struggling with integrating OS level stuff and continually running in to THIS or THAT isn’t available in HAOS … SO … moved to ubuntu in a vm with a docker container … the Insteon Add In for HA isn’t clearly documented and didn’t seem to give me a reliable feed back that my sump monitor was working 100% so wrote a huge 3000 line python script to do the monitoring outside of ha then linked to ha for visual … AI suggested that using supervisor could eliminate the 3 platform scenario by migrating to ONE OS encompassing all of the elements I was creating … the Python Script HA and some other integrations from the 80’s/90’s

HA OS would be fine IF it didn’t lock down or lock out traditional unix operations … ultimately, the Lenovo M73 that I upgraded to 12G Ram and a 1T SSD was going to be used as a fulltime HA service WITH the added bonus of being a desktop browser by my wife (rare because she has a new laptop)

Well use the container install. Then you can Linux and add dockers to work like add-ons and do all the things. I personally don’t need any of that, I just Linux all my desktops and can do it from there, HA doesn’t need to be a complication I need to think about, I just HAOS on bare metal that. No Windows machines at all, other than a dual boot on a secondary drive if I need something.

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