Hi all.
New to group, so quick intro, and obligatory first question.
In Adelaide, with a Mitsubishi system, 6 zones with AT5 and Temp Sensors (but no bypass as yet). Recently added a bunch of Shelley’s to MSB and solar, so able to see effect of system changes to AC operation.
Only just changed the settings to iA for fan control today and Zoning to Outlet, based on comments above. Cheers for that.
An observation from playing around lately with AC Control on Economy and Average (prior to latest changes above).
Once up/down to temperature, seeing the power consumption drop from 3kW down to around 1.2kW typically, maintaining temperature in open zones, then spilling as expected.
I had found Average a while back, and with this selected, have been able to run for a couple of long periods, observing power cycling last night around 1.2kW for 40 minutes, dropping to 35W for anything between 1 and 3hrs, depending on ambient. I can’t say I’ve noticed this behaviour on Economy - might have to run some further tests when the weather heats up again.
I haven’t noticed any discussion around the topic of using Average of Zones, so thought I’d ask if I’m on the wrong track, or it’s something that hasn’t been considered?
Average shouldn’t be used in a home with multiple rooms and zones as it will never work the best.
It’s just going to take an average of all the “On” zones.
Economy will follow different sensors based on the biggest gap between the room temperature and setpoint per zone.
Average will just cause issues with systems not starting when they should or stopping when they should, I’ve never mentioned average in anything because it isn’t what should be used.
Economy for spill systems, Auto for bypass systems 
If you want a bypass and can’t get someone to do it I have a contact in Adelaide and can pass on his details.
Nice work! I will certainly be interested to hear more
Is there any update on adding Beam to any of the integrations ?
There was some discussion about integrating the Beam in this GitHub issue: Ability to interact with AirTouch Beam · Issue #33 · TheNoctambulist/hass-airtouch · GitHub
In summary, the Beam supports Matter over Wifi, so it can be directly integrated into Home Assistant via the official Matter integration. Apparently Polyaire are working on an update to the AT5 which will combine the Beam and AirTouch into a single app. Once that is released it may be possible to include the Beam devices via the AirTouch integrations.
keen to find out more about this!
does this use the DRED/DRM terminals or does it go inline on the same connector as the AT5?
I’ve been contemplating using a wifi relay for controlling DRED depending on TOU tariffs etc, but this might be a better option!
It connects to the terminals and the AirTouch itself and uses its own logic to control things so it’s all done in the best way as possible. You can only be switching drm terminals in certain ways in certain conditions which this all does.
It has a few parameters you can manipulate around it all though. Peak mode caps the system for light load with safeties which stop the system.
It’s kind of involved but simple for people to use.
Hi gents, I’ve been experiencing this recently when running the cooling. Our bedroom is randomly going full blast at some ungodly hours (2:00-4:00am) despite it not experiencing elevated temperatures. Seems to happen regardless of whether I open the dampeners to other rooms.
I have a bypass fitted. Was wondering if the two of you do? I don’t quite understand why this is happening.
It’s because at some point your system has cycled off, your room has started to heat up and the Airtouch is adjusting the damper position open, the room temp rises it opens more until the point of which it sees the room temp start dropping again.when the cooling starts.
You do get brief times the bedroom hits 100% and the bypass closes, even mine use to till I set the max opening back a little less and I never have any issues.
If you have a bypass then you can get away with balancing the system to a max opening percentage anyway so adjust that room to a level where it’s open enough that the noise is less and this will still cool the room any other time.
That’s the correct way to do it, don’t try automate around it.
Yep, ok, that explanation makes sense given that this has only started occurring in the shoulder season.
i did look for something that would allow me to set the max value for a zone damper, but could only see the “Min Vent” value settings. Or do I just lower the “Balance” value for that single zone? Is it that simple?
Yeah lower the balance value from 100.
I have spill, no bypass. I simply watch for the damper being open more than something like 50% between 10pm and 7am and close it. Example here.
hey everyone, new to the forum and very new to HA. managed to get the hass-airtouch integration working but wanting to see how people have setup a climate dashboard? i wonder if the dashboard could replace the day-to-day use of the airtouch app and tablet?
I very rarely use the tablet or Airtouch app. My dashboards are available here.
I also primarily use HA to control my AC system. I very rarely use the AirTouch app on my phone. I do occasionally use the AirTouch console, but that’s just because it’s in a convenient location I am often walking past.
This is how I have currently set up my dashboard:
thankyou Tim and Benjamin! this was exactly what i was looking for, and gets me a good start. see how i go!
This is the first dashboard I’ve see that I feel could replace the AirTouch console.
Any chance you’d be willing to share the YAML?
Sure, here is a dump of the yaml: Home Assistant Climate AirTouch Dashboard · GitHub
The dashboard uses Mushroom Cards, Card-Mod, and Scheduler Card.
I use an automation that applies an offset to the zone temperature setpoints based on the cost of electricity (taking tariff and solar generation into account), so the zone temperature controls on the dashboard are all connected to input_number helpers rather than directly modifying the climate entity setpoint. A few of the other cards are also connected to helper entities related to the automation. If you are happy to directly modify the climate entity setpoint it should be possible to simplify the zones section to two cards (or maybe even one?) per zone.
FYI for anyone watching this thread, seems airtouch are making a big play into the full smart home platform with devices and a new app experience “Airtouch Home”
There is a new firmware update on the AT5 which adds the new Airtouch Home app onto your console and makes it the default loaded app. You ARE able to switch back to the (now branded) “Classic app”
So fore warning for any intreped firmware updators…
I have just upgraded my console and so far the Home Assistant integration appears to be working as per normal.
It looks like the new AirTouch Home mobile app might be cloud based instead of local control, so it will be interesting to see where things end up in the future.