or is it still a pipe dream in 2026? I have the athom PS02C3 set for 15 seconds on max sensitivity 2 feet away and if i sit still itll clear. Is the everything presence pro any good? Do any of them actually do sleeping well instead of just regurgitating chip specs?
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All microwave presence detection sensors have very specific ranges for micro movement detection. The Athom PS02C3 does not even mention it can do this. How far away from it are you when sitting still?
e.g. this is for a random sensor I have never used:
2 feet. It does say micromotion though. Is breathing not micromotion?
Yeah should be.
The most interesting presence sensor I’ve seen get remarkable reviews is the C4002. I don’t have personal experience with it. I’ve used LD2410, which work really well, but they have their quirks with micromotion and static detection.
You can check out this thread regarding the C4002.
the c4002 is the same sensor as the one in the everything presence pro. Im a little leery about asking the author of that thread how well it works since he basically posted the same topic 3 times since he joined
WiFi presence for true static detection is still a bit of a pipe dream, honestly.
If you’re okay with a tiny bit of DIY, look into 24GHz mmWave instead. I’ve been messing with the C4002 (SEN0691) lately—it’s a module, so you’d need an ESP32 for the WiFi part, but it’s insanely responsive to micro-movements like breathing. No more “clearing” while you’re just sitting there, and zero cooldown issues.
Here’s the wiki if you want to check the specs: Fermion: C4002 mmWave Human Presence Sensor - Static & Motion Detection for Home Assistant (10m) | DFRobot Wiki
Wait, just a quick follow-up—good call on the EP Pro. That one is actually built on the C4001 (SEN0609), which is a solid benchmark for long-range presence.
But since you’re sitting just 2 feet away and your current setup is still clearing on you, the C4002 (SEN0691) might be more your speed. One cool thing I’ve found is that it can output motion and static presence as separate states.
It’s pretty sweet for fine-tuning automations—you can use the “motion” trigger for instant-on, but rely on the “static” state (which picks up even micro-movements like breathing) to make sure the lights never ghost on you while you’re just sitting there. It’s a bit more of a “maker” DIY route, but it’s probably the closest thing to that “pipe dream” sensitivity you’re after.