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Guys, I’m about to get my dead ducted reverse cycle HVAC replaced, we’re getting quotes currently.

Anyone here worked out which brand is the easiest to integrate into HA without a cloud account (prefer local connection) ?

I’m thinking Panasonic or Mitsubishi Electric from what I read so far…

I have a x Daikin FDYA100AV1 with an Airbase BRP15B61 wifi module. Works locally and almost perfectly.

Almost: https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/52344

Nope Direct from Bob at IOTAWATT only.

Also make sure you get the CT clamps he sells - you can save a fw bucks getting them from ALibaba but not worth the hassle and they are bigger clamps and not as accurate

Craig

Can anyone recomend blocout blinds that ideally work with HA? Will take work with Tuya app as well.
Bunnings has some but there’s a size limit of 2100mm, no indicaton of the quality of the motor and it only come in white…

Daikin is great if you are going for just the native system - but would highly recommend the Polyaire Airtouch 4 and that integrates really well.

We just replaced our 20 year old Daikin 12KW with a 14.5KW new Ducted last week. Bit the bullet and put in Airtouch 4 - it is night and day difference.

The installers were rushing at the end of the day and did not configure it correctly to read the temperature from each room - left it as the default to read return air temp - i could see this in my home energy monitor (iotawatt) - it acted like the old system - on for 15 minutes or so and then off for 10 minutes, once they came back and set it up correctly it is brilliant.

Our daughter likes a really hot room so we zoned each bedroom, the kitchen/dining and loungerooms seperately - each with their own ITC.

You can set the temp for each room, the airflow amount etc - it is brilliant.

Craig

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Get any with a physical switch (not remote) then use either a Shelly 2 or the new Sonoff Dual mini

We just put one of those on our manual Somfy motorised awning and it is brilliant

Craig

Thanks. It’s going to be for indoor use and on brick wall so that will be hard to wire this to the main. So at the minute, the main option I am considering is a battery operated motor.

If it’s under development then ‘almost perfectly’ is good enough.

I did a quick read of the HA integration and there is a warning about removal of the local API in the firmware of late Daikin units. Not the case with yours (is it a concern do you think) ?

The Airtouch4 is a luxury I can’t have for a couple of personal reasons.
I have hatched a tentative plan to try a Polyaire ZoneSwitch. They have a spare control pad port on the damper controller box, and I like hacking wire protocols…

It’s a specific wifi adaptor (BRP069C4x) that has had local control hobbled. The ones listed under “Supported Hardware” still work, and the newer units can be fitted with the older BRP072A42 adaptor to restore local control.

Thanks Tom. The bold warning header on the HA Integration page is a bit misleading then, I took it to mean all new units were affected. They should clarify that for others…

Yes it is. I keep forgetting to put in a PR to change it. I’ll do it now.

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Hey Tom sorry to be a pest tonight, do you know if it’s correct that the HA integration can control zone dampers if the unit has one of the Daikin zone control capable wired remotes connected (and the Wifi interface) ?
i.e. This one

Unfortunately I don’t know. My ducted unit only has manual dampers. I’ve set them how I like - max air to the lounge, kitchen/dinging and master bedroom, and about 3/4 to the other smaller bedrooms. Haven’t needed to adjust it all winter. We’ll see what happens in summer.

I do know who to ask though. Send fredrike a message. He maintains the pydaikin repository and the home assistant integration.

The zone controller for the Daikin is pretty much standard on/off - so it doesn’t control the airflow by slowly closing the damper. For that controller, each zone will appear in Home Assistant as an individual switch. This is how I set it up in my Dashboard.

I wrote my own appdaemon controller to automate zoning using the switches and temperature sensors located in each room (plus the ability to add in manual overrides and conditional logic). https://github.com/dgaust/smarterzones

And then I created a UI like this in each zone that lets me choose the preferred in room set point (one kid likes it cold, one warmer) so the zone will open/close depending on the in room temperature and preferred setting

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I think that answers the question for me. On/Off control is fine if HA can do that via the Daikin 8 zone controller.

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I don’t have a daiken, it’s a MHI unit controlled by a myzone 3 wifi system. Zone dampening apparently happens automatically based on the room sizes i configured on the controller. I’ve not really checked or test it though.

I am interested in prettying up my display. My aircon on/off/modes appears in HA as it’s own climate entity so despite my living room having the main controller i have not found a way to have the living temp associated with the main climate controls which display N/A for the temp. It looks alright with everything hidden except the climate modes as shown below above my kogan heater.

My one seemed promising at first, but would constantly disconnect. Rainforest tried with some updates but no luck. Got a refund and thinking IoTaWatt may be the way to go. Your mileage may vary.

IOTAWATT is brilliant - i have two of them and seriously thinking of getting a 3rd one to cover the last of my circuits.

Craig

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How big is your :house: Any chance of showing some pics of how you have yours installed?