Clipsal Wiser in Australia. Can it be integrated into HA?

Oh, at least I have the temperature readings.

I figured that the device Logbook would have shown the test that I performed once they were all installed.

I did some more resaerch on the firmware and it looks as though that can only be checked/updated via the Wiser by SE app. I can’t get the smoke alarms to connect to the app because it insists that I have the Wiser hub. It’s not recognising my HA/Sonoff hub :frowning: . I’m going to check this with Clipsal tomorrow though.

How did you get temperature readings? A bloke years ago had the same issue (in this thread), and couldnt get them. Weird.

My firmware is listed as: 20220926
It’s never been updateable via OTA. I’m using Z2M.

I didn’t do anything specific to get the temperature reading, it just appeared once the alarm was connected. Here is what I see for the device:

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Interesting, here’s mine.

Notice you dont have Heat and Smoke (which is why you asked the question about alarms). Yours seems to be combined.

Interesting, indeed. You are getting a firmware version whereas I get nothing. What are you using as your Zigbee coordinator since we seem to be using different connection methods?

I got on to Clipsal earlier, via online chat, and they confirmed that there is no way, other than via the Wiser Hub and the Wiser by SE app to update firmware.

I pointed out to them that this is a shortcoming since the smoke alarms can be used without a hub.

I’m using a PoE SLZB-06. Excellent device.

Thanks. I probably wasn’t clear as I was referring to you using zigbee2mqtt and me using ZHA.

Perhaps that is why you are getting the firmware information and the separate heat and smoke entries.

Does zigbee2mqtt have advantages over ZHA?

I didn’t choose ZHA, that’s just what got setup when I plugged in the Sonoff Dongle-E.

Yes right! I mentioned it a few posts earlier that I was running Zigbee2Mqtt.
Interesting they show different entities.

Very disappointing about needing a wiser hub to update firmware.

Is it fair to say that the Wiser Dimmer and the 10AX switch mechs can only be used with 2 gang and 3 gang grids, and not 4, 5 or 6 gang grids, due to their width?

I have just had some Wiser switches and dimmers installed at my house. It is possible to fit one 10AX or dimmer in the centre of a 5 gang with 2AX or standard switches around the edges. Otherwise, yes, only 1, 2, or 3 gangs will fit the 10AX and dimmers due to their size.

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I have installed some Philips Hue Downlights and also have a Tap Dial Switch which is working a treat. My wall switches are traditional mechanical switches so I’m thinking to change those to Wiser 2AX switches so that the rest of the family don’t go mad trying to work out the smart lighting.

Will the Wiser units give the family the familiar switch control whilst leaving me with the smart control via the Tap Dial Switch and the HA interface?

Secondly, three of the lights are two-way switched, the Clipsal documentation seems to suggest that the 2AX mechs will work with some added automation. Does anybody have experience with this?

Hi,
I have a setup with quite a few Clipsal Wiser Dimmers and Switches.

Have installed Zigbee RGB Lights in each room that they control.

To support this I have for each room “hidden” the Iconic physical switch. This switch powers the Zigbee downlights in that room or area all of the time (so there is always a way to turn lights on / or off by section manually - this is a must for us as we want failsafe and manual control if we need it. Also helps if you ever need to re-join just a light or do work in an area.

For control of these lights I have bound the Clipsal Wiser Switch (2AX) or Dimmer (Wiser 40/300-Series Module Dimmer) to the light or light group via Z2M (This enables direct control from the Clipsal Wiser Switch or Dimmer to the bound light or light group - does not need Home Assistant working for this to function (Do need the coordinator powered though - I have a bunch of PoE SMLight Zigbee Coordinators (2nd level of failure control).
BONUS: Its quicker anbd way smoother than Z2M with HA for dimmer control.

Last stage is that I have many remote / 2 way switches (so one end is a wiser device (2AX or Dimmer) and the other still has the control mechinism (not wiser or smart).

Because the switch(s) / dimmer(s) are not physically connected to power on / off the Light / Light groups and I need the dimmer / switch to update itself (so it thinks it has been turned on / off.

This works as the ControlLink (2 Way) changes the state of the wiser switch / dimmer.

I have an automation that reads the state of the Dimmer or 2AX - ON or OFF, and then if ON, turn ON the light or light group or OFF.

Here is the Automation that may help you out

alias: XRoom Downlights Triggered by Remote ON-OFF
description: ""
triggers:
  - trigger: state
    entity_id:
      - light.xroom_dimmer
    id: Turn ON XRoom Downlights
    to: "on"
  - trigger: state
    entity_id:
      - light.xroom_dimmer
    to: "off"
    id: Turn OFF XRoom Downlights
conditions: []
actions:
  - choose:
      - conditions:
          - condition: trigger
            id:
              - Turn ON XRoom Downlights
        sequence:
          - action: light.turn_on
            metadata: {}
            data: {}
            target:
              entity_id: light.xroom_downlights
      - conditions:
          - condition: trigger
            id:
              - Turn OFF XRoom Downlights
        sequence:
          - action: light.turn_off
            metadata: {}
            data: {}
            target:
              entity_id: light.xroom_downlights
mode: single

FYI - I have Wiser smoke detectors and they do not show temperature. I tried a few things then just gave. I have other $5 temp / humidity sensors that fulfil that requirement.

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Thank you so much for your detailed response. My Wiser mechs are currently en route so can carry some testing once they are installed.

I have done some searching so I think I have the answer (no) but would appreciate confirmation from another user of the 2AX switches - can you change the LED indication outside of the Wiser app?

I’d like it set to “On when Load is Off”, which would match the how the LEDs in my mechanical switches are wired.

EDIT: some more googling helped and it can be done with ZHA Toolkit: https://nick.barrett.org.nz/home-assistant-connected-switches-from-schneider-electric-eebdab3696ad.

I hope the above link is useful for others.