Clipsal Wiser in Australia. Can it be integrated into HA?

[Iceman_jkh]

@Iceman_jkh

Did you (or anyone) figure out how to update the firmware on these wiser/schneider devices using ZHA?
I’ve got a batch of dimmers on the old firmware (which requires 2 physical presses if the dimmer was previuosly activated in HA), and would love to update them without swithcing to zigbee2mqtt.
Thanks.

Did you (or anyone) figure out how to update the firmware on these wiser/schneider devices using ZHA?
I’ve got a batch of dimmers on the old firmware (which requires 2 physical presses if the dimmer was previuosly activated in HA), and would love to update them without switching to zigbee2mqtt.
Thanks.

[Orange-GT3]

@Iceman_jkh

Did you (or anyone) figure out how to update the firmware on these wiser/schneider devices using ZHA?

I haven’t looked into firmware updates. I was just changing the behaviour of the LED in the switches. It’s seems, to me anyway, to be so trivial that I feel as though it could be implemented in ZHA in the UI as a simple dropdown on the device page.

[joshdolan]

@tom_l

Download the catalogue: https://www.se.com/au/en/download/document/JYT1306800/

2AX Switch: 41E2PBSWMZ-VW for up to 2A loads,

10AX Switch: 41E10PBSWMZ-VW for 10A loads.

Dimmer: 41EPBDWCLMZ-VW

Two way can be accomplished with 41EPBM-VW control link mechanisms for all but the 2AX switch.

Hi @tom_l - quick question on your comment here from last year. I’m about to have my sparky install the 2AX Wiser mechs (41E2PBSWMZ-VW), but we have a few 2-way light switches I need to account for You note here that the 41EPBM-VW can be used for this except for with the 2AX. What options would I therefore have to setup the Wiser 2AX mechs on a 2 way circuit? Thanks!

[tom_l]

@joshdolan

What options would I therefore have to setup the Wiser 2AX mechs on a 2 way circuit?

As I said this is not possible. The switch contacts are not exposed on any of the switch mechs so the only way to do multi-way switching is with control link modules - which the 2AX does not support.

You would have to use the 10AX switch and up to four 41EPBM control link modules for multi-way switching. Check page 24 of the catalogue I linked to.

[Orange-GT3]

@joshdolan

What options would I therefore have to setup the Wiser 2AX mechs on a 2 way circuit?

You can do it with an automation in HA, but you will lose that functionality if HA is down for some reason.

[joshdolan]

@Orange-GT3

You can do it with an automation in HA, but you will lose that functionality if HA is down for some reason.

Thanks. Would this involve putting 2 x 2AX mechs on the circuit? I’m not sure which automation solution I’ll be using either, but I’m leaning towards just using the Wiser hub and app. Do you know if it’s possible to set this same thing up there?

[joshdolan]

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You would have to use the 10AX switch and up to four 41EPBM control link modules for multi-way switching. Check page 24 of the catalogue I linked to.
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Thanks @tom_l. I guess this would require an additional ControlLink line on the circuit, so if I’m retrofitting them into an existing house where this doesn’t exist, then this is not really a viable solution?

[tom_l]

Sure it is. You can use the existing traveller wire.

[Orange-GT3]

@joshdolan

Would this involve putting 2 x 2AX mechs on the circuit?

Yes, and then you set up an automation that turns switch B on/off when switch A is turned on/off and vice versa.

@joshdolan

but I’m leaning towards just using the Wiser hub and app. Do you know if it’s possible to set this same thing up there?

I use HA, not the Wiser hub, but I’m sure I have read something in the Wiser documentation that you can achieve the same thing.

[tom_l]

The issue with doing that is that it will not work if home assistant is down. Lights should continue to function when this happens.

[Orange-GT3]

Can anyone using the Wiser Dimmer mech with ZHA confirm that it exposes a brightness or dimming value that can be set in automations, etc?

I want to be able to have the lights in the en-suite come on at, say, 10% brightness during night time hours for minimal disturbance to the person still sleeping. The lights are just dumb downlights.