Combining numeric condition with time period

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I’m trying to combine a numeric less than condition, with a “for 5 minutes” clause, but it seems like “for” can only be used with “state” conditions.

What I’m trying to achieve is that for every value change, where the value hasn’t been above a threshold for a period of time, I want to save that value to an input_slider. That way, when the value goes above the range, the saved value in the input_slider is the goal to return to.

I’ve tried:

      - condition: numeric_state
        entity_id: sensor.sn1_humidity_delta
        below: 1
        for:
          minutes: 5

And I’ve tried:

      - condition: template
        value_template: '{{ states.sensor.sn1_humidity_delta.state < 1.0 }}'
        for:
          minutes: 5

Both complain about the “for”, with an error along the lines of:
ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.config] Invalid config for [automation]: extra keys not allowed @ data['condition'][0]['conditions'][1]['for']. Got None

I could probably add an input_boolean to update with the “state” result of the numerical check, and then use that for the “for 5 minutes” condition, but that seems clunky. Is there any way to represent it without resorting to more input variables?

It would be useful if “numeric_state” and “template” type conditions could use the “for” syntax.

Thanks!

2

Somebody was asking a similar question on Discord the other day. The short answer is that you can’t use for: with numeric_state.

Maybe you should raise a feature request?