Covers are closed, although all automations/Scripts are deactivated

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Hi Community,
I have 5 covers, 4 of which have a z-wave actor, one is controlled by a shelly (wifi).
I have several automations around them. Due to some Hardware Issues, I wanted to prevent HA from opening/closing it. So I removed it from the - what I thought - responsible Automations. However, it still closes in the evening.
Unfortunatly, the activity-log only shows:
DB Rollo Links was closed
16:56:31 - 29 minutes ago

I than deactivated ALL cover-automations, even deactivated Cover-Groups and checked if I have any Scenes, or Scripts (which I don’t ).
Still, ALL covers were closing at the same time.

Also, I’ve checked if there are any automations directly in the actor, but couldn’t find any.
I’ve checked the logs, z-wave JS debug Info + Events, nothing…(I see the event, but no hint what triggered it.)

Does anybody have a suggestion?
Thanks in advance!
Fritz

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Hi,

You can check which automation did run @16:56:31 by filtering them on “last triggered”. Check the trace for the exact timestamp.

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Thanks, forgot to mention, of course I did that, too

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You mentioned Shelly, there isn’t an automation running there that affects it, or from any other outside (of HA) entity acting on it is there?

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Yes, one is a shelly. it works via Wifi, and is also not allowed to access the internet. I’ve checked its settings: There are no Actions, no schedules, nothing, just the plain basic config.

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It looks like there’s some kind of hidden Automation running in HA.
i had an automation, which closed all Covers 30min after sunset. I deactivated it, but still all 5 (4 of which are z-waves, one is a shelly) close at that time.
in the Shelly-log is see an entry “…is closing triggered by action Cover: Close”
unfortunately no hint on the Automation…
In now deleted within the automation.yaml this deactivated automation and every other cover-related automation. need to wait until tomorrow.

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I still have no clue. I deactivated one of the Cover Actors in Home Assistant. It does not go close anymore. However, all the other Covers still get closed every evening.
To me this looks very much as if there’s kind of a ghost automation running.

Question to the community: is there a general Job-Log, a scheduler-task, that i can look up to find out what is running at a specific time?

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So, next analysis steps:
at the time the covers are closing, I turned the HA-Server off: as expected, nothing happened, they are not closing. Which means, something in HA is triggering them!

Next test: I removed ALL Automations and scripts (by commenting the includes in the configuration.yaml), restarted HA. and waited for the time … again: Covers were closing.
Again: something in HA is closing them, but there’s no log, nothing!!

This is all I see:

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the shelly shows a little more:
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HELP please!
Thanks

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The cover is triggered by some sensor that is monitoring sunset time.

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Hi @woempiej , Thanks, yes, sure, but that has to be via some automation, right? it is definitely handled via HA, not via any direct Connection, as it isn’t triggered when HA is off.
And yes, I had an Automation once, that closes all covers some minutes after Sunset, but that’s deleted.

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You could check/search the automations.yaml

File editor → automations.yaml → CTRL+F to open the search option (in browser) → Search for “cover.close_cover” or only “cover”

CTRL+F or

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Maybe you find something that isn’t deleted.