Deprecating Core and Supervised installation methods, and 32-bit systems

[francisp (Francis)]

Yes it works with HA OS. Just need to enable

dtparam=i2c_vc=on
dtparam=i2c_arm=on
dtoverlay=i2c-rtc,ds3231

to boot/config.txt ,which you CAN do on HA OS

[Tamsy]

Such a basic function should work out of the box and without one has to tamper with any files within HA OS. It’s enough to make you weep…

[Lord_Vader (Daniel)]

Just bought a GSM modem to enable my system sending SMS in case of a really important event

[habb0]

Is this joke?
Why the earth they dropped supervised, That and HAOS is only wich support all things.
Now support container, and they own picture said add-ons not supported. April fools are too late

[M0ebiu5]

What about support for nvidia cards in HAOS?

[joostlek (Joost Lekkerkerker)]

What deprecation message do you see? Can you provide system health info?

[Synochy (Martin)]

I am using Supervised version of HA (with add-on) on an orange pi 5B.
How can I migrate to HAOS ?
If I understand well orange pi are not supported by HAOS.

[Thomas.FTL]

HA runs on my current Debian server (Bookworm) together with other server services. Yes, exactly. For me, HA is a server service and nothing else, even if the software is treated differently.

Why?
I was dissatisfied with the HA OS.
I want full control over the operating system.
The CLI interface is for people who have no idea about operating systems. For me, it only offers disadvantages. I cannot install any additional tools and the Linux distribution used is not what I want to use.
Furthermore, I do not want to run HA in a virtual machine. HA should have access to all the hardware that the server offers (RAM, HD, etc.).

The container variant is also very limited.

Neither variant is relevant for me.

What are the consequences if I keep my supervised version?
Will I no longer receive updates?
That would be a reason for me to look for another smart home system that offers more freedom in terms of operating system and installation mode. Even if it means starting from scratch again after several years.

[francisp (Francis)]

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Deprecating Core and Supervised installation methods, and 32-bit systems

As these installation methods are used for the development of Home Assistant, it will still be technically possible to update them. We still would recommend migrating to a supported method, but that’s your choice.

[gonzotek]

There was a discussion within the integration deprecation PR where someone is potentially going to release an add-on to replace the core integration. So you may have a path forward.

Deprecate sms integration

[Gabriel76 (Gabriel Moscalu)]

Hi all, just adding myself to Supervised users list.

Tried to read the docs, i cannot easily see how i would do the migration:

• Running HASS on a Debian VM, in my Synology NAS
• using a couple of addons
• in that VM, i deployed a MariaDB that stores all data for HASS

Migration means as i see it so far (as the 6 months will pass quite fast):

• loosing years of history?
• running a VM inside a VM?

Please reconsider this decision for Supervised, i do not wish to purchase new HW or replace everything, including the wonderful HomeAssistant just after the 6 months end and i face the least problem with it !

[francisp (Francis)]

if you can run a Debian VM on your Synology, you can run a HA OS VM. All your add-ons can move over using a backup and restore. For your MariaDB, you will have to use the MariaDB add-on and move your database over.

[petro]

Backup your supervised installation and restore. For the db, you can use phpmyadmin addon with mariadb addon to load your old database into your new one.

You can also just continue to use supervised in a deprecated state. I have no plans to move off supervised until it stops working.

[samrocketman (Sam Gleske)]

I run orange pi. Your only option is to keep running supervised even past the support period.

I am currently running HA on orange pi zero 2w and migrating to an orange pi 5 plus 32gb model.

[Ismoo]

Not found simple explanation on impacts, so stupid question: I’ve used HA supervised in RPI4, because when I set it up few years back I understood it was only option to enable use other apps running over Linux (now Bookworm) like python codes, Grafana, Node-Red etc. Is my option only to install with HA OS, or can I still run it via e.g. Docker, is there already dummy-guide how to move on to trial?

[Synochy (Martin)]

I think I’ll try to create a VM with KVM and run HAOS inside it. But I find it very heavy for simple task, but I don’t want to buy new HW because they don’t want to support it anymore.

[Frog]

I think it’s a regrettable mistake to abandon HA Supervised. I used to run HA OS in a VirtualBox VM. Everything worked as expected until an upgrade made the VM consume an unacceptable amount of CPU.

See the thread:

CPU usage bumped from 2% to 10% after Operating System 10.0 upgrade (caused by containerd)

I then switched to HA Supervised in the same VirtualBox VM and everything has run absolutely flawlessly since that moment. The flexibility and control I have with HA Supervised is so much better than with HA OS and so is also the CPU usage.

I know many say that HA Supervised is supposed to be complicated, but for me, it has been extremely easy and rock solid. I hate to be forced to go back. And I’m sure I’m not alone.

Please reconsider the decision to not support HA Supervised any more!

[samrocketman (Sam Gleske)]

Would this break on HAOS upgrade? Based on partitioning.

[francisp (Francis)]

The boot partition is typically a FAT partition and contains system-specific content to enable booting.

[samrocketman (Sam Gleske)]

That’s the boat I’m in I will keep running supervised in my case.