Drayton Wiser Home Assistant Integration

Just make sure it’s a 2.6GHz only one and you should be good.

Turn off band steering. Your modern devices that support WiFi 6 (or 4 or 5) can do it themselves and it doesn’t work well for older devices. It’s really designed for massive WiFi networks such as in shopping centres and stadiums where you want to balance usage of hundreds of devices across 2.4 GHz and 5GHz networks and if it doesn’t work for some clients it doesn’t matter because they aren’t paying or family. You don’t need it in a home setting.

Don’t buy a repeater - that will slow down the entire network. If turning off band steering doesn’t fix things get an additional access point to put nearby - another Deco mesh is ok but running an ethernet cable to a proper access point or old router is better. Even powerline is a better solution than a WiFi repeater.

This might be slightly off topic but can I ask some advice about the Wiser underfloor heating controller?

I am adding UFH in my kitchen extension. We already have a UK Wiser Kit 2 and wiser iTRVs across radiators. The UFH system will run from the gas boiler. The engineer installing the pipes says we need an extra zone, which it seems our gas boiler will support.

However, I’m unsure if I really need an extra zone (which would require buying a new Wiser Kit 3 hub) if I buy the Wiser UFH controller - does this not sort of work like a having a separate zone?

I suspect the cost of buying Wiser UFH controller plus Kit 3 will be higher than having a different brand controller but perhaps I’ll be disappointed if I can’t manage it from HA with this integration?

I know a few people here have added Wiser UFH to an existing system. Any lessons learnt you would share?

Based on my (similar, but not identical expereince) I think you are right.

Until recently, we had wiser kit 3, serving 2 heating zones (upstairs and downstairs) and hot water, and then added wiser UFH to cover part of the downstairs, so now have 4 zone valves in total. The new ufh zone valve is wired to the wiser ufh controller (not back to the main wiser hub, as far as i can tell). When we set up the wiser ufh controller in the wiser app, we have 3 choices for the channel - Hub Channel 1, Hub Channel 3 (the other 2 heating zones) and “UFH relay”.

All that to say that based on my experience, the ufh controller adds the additional channel/ zone that you need itself, rather than using an additional channel/zone from the hub.

I hope that helps and makes some sort of sense!

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I have an issue with the integration returning an error and i cant find any other references to the same error to try and trobuleshoot.

The error message comes when I try to send commands from HA to the Wiser hub. The example below is trying to set a schedule from a file, but it also happens when I try to change pretty much anything, e.g. the thermostat set-point temperature. It does not always happen when I try to send a command, but more often than not.

Would love to get any help/ ideas from the group on how to fix (or even what the error means as a starting point!)

The error message is…
"Error setting schedule from yaml file - Error setting schedule - Response error trying to communicate with Wiser Hub 10.0.0.30 for url http://10.0.0.30:80/data/v2/schedules/Heating/2. Error is 0, message=‘’, url=‘http://10.0.0.30:80/data/v2/schedules/Heating/2

My set-up is that I have 2 hubs connected through the integration in HA, in 2 separate buildings. Both hubs are on the same wifi network, and both seem to be conected fine - e.g. no errors other than when sending commands; appears to collect data from both hubs/ all rooms fine.

Any thoughts most welcome!

Can you log an issue on the github repo and provide a diagnostic file. Has this ever worked? Is it both hubs?

Also can you provide logs from a few changes ie change target temp, change hvac mode etc

Thanks - that is really helpful. So I’ll still need an additional zone but the zone will be managed by the UFH controller rather than directly by the Hubr.

Did you use one of Drayton’s certified installers or just buy the controller elsewhere?

I did not use a certified installer, my electrician did it as part of some renovation works. The instructions/ wiring diagram is pretty awful / hard to interpret, but on the second try, all was sorted. Other than that, the installation / commissionning of the ufh controller is trivial.

One thing to note - the wiser ufh controller only supports a single floor temperature probe for the whole installation. you cannot have one floor probe ber zone, or wire back to the wiser thermostats. That may not be an issue for you, but we have put down wooden flooring and would ideally have a floor probe per area, but that is not possible, so we have just picked one to wire in and the rest are redundant/ spares

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Is anyone using the Wiser Temperature/Humidity Sensor? (https://www.se.com/uk/en/product/CCT593012/temperature-humidity-sensor-wiser-battery-white/)

Does it override TRV temperature to provide more accurate room temperatures? Does this HA integration work with it?

Are you in the UK? I don’t thing that the Temperature/Humidity Sensor is compatible with the hub which is generally sold/used in the UK. It seems to be compatible with the 2nd generation hub generally sold in Europe. I am not absolutely certain that this is correct but it would be worth checking compatibility with your hub before making a purchase.

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I use it, in France with the hub V2 and it work fine.
It 's not a roomtat like thye previous one , it’s a device with 2 thresholds sensor one for temperature, the other for humidity…
In the wiser home app you decide if it “interacts-with-room-climate”.
I 'am trying to integrate it in the integration.

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@pcaouolte , yes in the UK.

@LGO44 , ah, that’s good to know. I haven’t moved to Wiser yet but I am thinking of doing so and this device also looked of interest to me.

I think that the wiser ecosystem is easy to use, consistent, reliable, with the integration in HA no programming, (thanks a lot to the community specilally to @msp1974 )

@JasonBSteele, I dont think this works with the UK hub. For ref, this is the supported devices on a UK hub versus an EU hub (that @LGO44 and a number of others have) to show how poorly done to we are (@jamiebennett). I think these are the TemperatureHumiditySensor device in the EU list.

You can use the roomstat devices which do the same thing but have a screen and are more expensive.

UK Hub

"DeviceCapabilityMatrix": {
    "Roomstat": true,
    "ITRV": true,
    "SmartPlug": true,
    "UFH": true,
    "UFHFloorTempSensor": true,
    "UFHDewSensor": true,
    "HACT": false,
    "LACT": false,
    "Light": false,
    "Shutter": false,
    "LoadController": true
}

EU Hub

"DeviceCapabilityMatrix": {
    "Roomstat": true,
    "ITRV": true,
    "SmartPlug": true,
    "UFH": true,
    "UFHFloorTempSensor": true,
    "UFHDewSensor": true,
    "HACT": false,
    "LACT": false,
    "Light": true,
    "Shutter": true,
    "LoadController": true,
    "SmartSocket": true,
    "TwoGangLights": true,
    "FLS": true,
    "BoilerInterface": true,
    "WindowDoorSensor": true,
    "MotionLightSensor": true,
    "WaterLeakageSensor": true,
    "TemperatureHumiditySensor": true,
    "PowerTagE": true,
    "CFMT": true,
    "EVSE": true,
    "SmokeAlarmDevice": true,
    "Airzone": true,
    "NodOnPuck": true,
    "EVSocket": true,
    "FilPilotePuck": true,
    "IconicDevices": true,
    "ClipsalPTEs": true,
    "PowerTagC": true,
    "MWDimmerMicromodule": true,
    "AidooProA2W": true
  }
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Thanks a lot for this - very interesting!

We hear you :slight_smile:

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Not sure since when but my scheduler card has gone missing. Have tried a reinstall of the integration, deleting the resources etc but the problem persists. Any ideas what is going on. The only thing I noticed (not sure if it matters) is that the resource location is /wiser but in the file structure it actually seems to be /wiser/frontend.

Hmm… do you still have the network card? The /wiser is correct as that is a html path we point to /wiser/frontend on the disk.

Do you see any error in the html console on your browser?

No network card either. Will check the browser console and will report back.

Getting the following in chrome.

Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 (Not Found)  :8123/wiser/wiser-schedule-card.js?v=1.3.3

and also the same for the network map card.