I am contemplating a setup that would require 2 wiser hubs which I’m lead to believe will be a nightmare with their app (2 accounts forced). Would there be a problem getting both hubs into the same home assistant instance?
The integration supports multiple hubs and i have this setup with 1 actual hub and 1 test hub.
I have also two hubs in the same home assistant both working one generation 1 and the other generation 2.
I can also activate a third one located in my second home (remote access threw internet)
thank you both! i am currently planning on migrating gas heating and electric underfloor heating all into wiser under 1 roof. away from nest and generic electric UFH thermostats 
I’m using this integration since a little more than a year now. Schneider Wiser Gen 2 hub, a few iTRVs, electric UFH and a set of PowerTagEs for energy monitoring. Works flawlessly!
Any plans to make this integration part of HA core?
This was discussed many moons ago, really high up in the thread. So read years.
It was decided that keeping it within HACS made it more agile and it didn’t have go through all the time consuming hoops that an official integration has to, causing serious delays in responding to the many forced breaking changes that are common on the HA platform. Do you want your heating through HA to stop functioning because a Dev changed something and then have to wait? It was bad enough when they broke the thermostat card, that took months to sort out.
However maybe thoughts have changed.
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Spot on, this is the why
Yes, I agree. Unexpected breaking changes in HA forced me to set up a twin of the HA server which controls my home. Nothing gets updated on the controlling server until it has been thoroughly tested on the twin.
Has anyone been curious to what extent this integration would pass current quality assurance for HA integrations? Based on the quality scale description, most likely Bronze level https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/quality_scale/.
Maybe I’m naive to believe future changes in HA are less likely to break core integrations than external (HACS) integrations.
I think you are missing the point. HACS is a more agile environment.
Yes I believe you are. Core integrations break all the time when core is updated. You’ve said that yourself. And because of the release cycle it takes a lot longer to get that fix.
I’ve said this in my earlier post and this is why it was decided not to go down that route.
What’s the best practice for using this integration when “Away”?
I have an HA automation to cover holiday situations - it does fancy things with lights, for example. As far as the Wiser stuff goes, up to now I’ve just had it set Wiser Away mode (to limit heating), with a date/time I can specify to go back to normal so the house is nicely warmed up for our return. This works well in the summer, or even spring/autumn.
However, I’ve just come back from a holiday when it didn’t work so well. I hadn’t realised that Passive Mode and Away Mode aren’t compatible (last discussed in this thread three years ago, I think). So all the Passive Modes got turned off, and I could see (from the beach in Belize!) that the weather was really cold at home, and all the rooms were calling for heat - at different times.
Note that this is an old, cold, Victorian house and I really don’t want to just let it cool fully - I need to maintain a moderate temperature of, say 15C. I made a few manual changes (from the beach!) but I’m left wondering what others have done in this scenario.
My current thinking is that I should not try to use the Wiser Away mode at all, but just to set all the rooms to Passive Mode (with a temp range of, say, 14 to 16), reverting to normal (and turning the HW back on) at the time set in my automation.
What have others done?
I also have tried sniff with android app but It doesnt work
Hi, I’m having the same problem obtaining the “secret”. I first tried putting the wiser into setup mode connecting to the access point with my phone and trying http://192.168.8.1/secret...no response. I used Fing to do a port scan and it found my phone on 192.168.8.10 but did not report any other devices at all (so it would appear the hub is not advertising any services web or otherwise), even though my phones IP address details did show a DNS of 192.168.8.1! I also tried accessing /secret on the configured hub connected to my network and got {“Error”:“Unauthorized”} which is not unexpected. I also did a full reset on the hub and tried the http://192.168.8.1/secret before any other configuration was done with the same result. I would appreciate any guidance, my hub is running Firmware version 3.18.3 and my app version is 7.4.3.
OK, for anyone having the same issue in the end I used this from Oct23 Drayton Wiser Home Assistant Integration - #2845 by ian1182 except I used Packet Capture Pro (3 day free trial) with much the same results as Ian.
- Close Wiser Home, if you have it open
- Open Packet Capture Pro (PC Pro)
- Set application to monitor as Wiser Home
- Start Packet capture
- Open Wiser Home (let it run through to display home screen), note: PC Pro minimises
- Close Wiser Home
- double click on PC Pro minimised to open
- Select any of the “Get” entries that don’t have an amber shield
- Look in the Request tab, and there’s the Secret…
I have a HubR Gen 1, with a Main Eco compact combi boiler. The opentherm connection is working great from home assistant.
I have an issue with the combi boilers hot water flow temperature though.
The boilers HW temp setting dial is locked out (because of the opentherm connection) but there is no way to set the HW in the Wiser app.
I am trying to see if its possible to sent a service command for opentherm to the wiser hub to change the HW set points? But I am having no luck. Does anyone know if this is possible?
The water is defaulting to 60C which is too hot straight from the tap for the kids.
I asked in GitHub, but thought it may be wiser (pun intended) to ask here as well: does anyone know if the CCTFR6901G2 (Amazon link) is supported by this integration?
Additional questions - in case someone already has this device:
- am I right to understand this is a Gen2 hub?
- does it support a “2+1” setup (floor heating + radiator heating + hot water)?
- can it be extended with additional room thermostats (can’t see any online offers for the base device + two thermostats)?
The hub in this kit appears to be a “Gen2 hub”, part number CCTFR6311G2, which partly answers my questions above (with the help of an earlier post by @bitlisz).
Thanks!
Hello,
Buying Schneider electric wiser exxact room thermostats. I know that I can integrate them to hass with any zigbee dongle but I’d rather buy a Wiser hub. If I sell my apartment future residents can use “cloud” properties if I leave the hub behind. I read from wiki that this hass integration supports some European wiser hubs but I couldn’t find information which ones. Anyone has experience of this hub:
It’s gen1 CCT501901. And if its supported are there any specific reasons to buy later gen models (which are bit more expensive)?
I could on the other hand just get a zigbee dongle… but with wiser hub there’s also an advantage that you’re capable of setting minimun guard temperature and calibrate also room temperature sensor? So any experiences / thoughts that could help me to decide.
OK… further info. It appears that the “one-channel hubs” (such as CCTRF6311G2) can only control one circuit (even if the connector layout is the same)? Or does the heater “smartly” figure out which source to trigger (I doubt)?
If you get the single channel option for a combi boiler it will just tell the boiler when to turn on the heating. Combi boilers heat the water on demand without the Wiser systems involvement.
Two channel options are for systems with a hot water tank in addition to heating.
Three channel systems are for systems with hot water and two separate heating areas e.g. upstairs and downstairs which can be heated on different schedules.
It may be possible to hack different use cases with a specific device but probably not wise if you dont know much about wet heating systems, and value your home.
Personally I would buy the appropriate Wiser HeatHub based on the type of heating system you already have or plan on getting - keep it simple as having a warm house on winter is important. Gen1 is fine in my experience if you can still buy it.
Thanks a lot @dunxd for the response - and indeed, messing with the heater is not a good idea. I can’t seem to find the Gen2 3-channel anywhere (only visible on the SE UK page, and no place to buy it), as that’d meet my needs fully (two heating circuits with different parameters, one hot water).