Hunter Douglas PowerView Gen 3 integration

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Chiming in to report that PowerView Gen 3 Gateway now supports Matter.

I added the gateway to Home Assistant without any trouble. Even better I could share the gateway to Apple Home via HA Matter so now I can control shades via Home Assistant and Apple Home apps.

From my limited testing the Matter integration does not support realtime position updates, however it does support immediate state updates like in progress and complete. This is a huge upgrade from the PowerView integration which only polls for state.

Tested with skylight shade and duolite shades.

I now have a much better experience than when using powerview integration and homekit bridge integrations. I am still using the powerview integration just for syncing scenes.

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I was wondering whether someone can point me int he right direction… I have gen 3 Powerview shades (type ID 5, Designer Roller & Screen shades).
I have been able to connect to all of my shades using the flutter package Flutter_Blue_Plus to retrieve all the info about each shade (e.g. services, characteristics and manufacturer info). Using the api.py from github/hdpb_ble I have been able to successfully decode the position and power info.
I would like to be able to update the position of a shade, but so far this has eluded me.
Question 1: Since I have not required the HomeKey to get the info so far, do I need the key (and therefore encrypt the data) when I send the SET_POSITION command?
Question 1a - if so then how do I get the key from the Android app?
Question 1b - I cant see anywhere in the PowerView (v 3.13.0 from Jul 21/25) app that encryption is required. Is it supposed to indicate that somewhere?
Question 2: If encryption is not required, then base on the api.py file, is there an error in the set_position command that I am sending…
[247, 1, 5, 9, 0, 0, 0, 128, 0, 128, 0, 128, 0]
(intended position is 0, sequence 5)

BTW, when i send the info, nothing happens.

Appreciate any guidance … thank you in advance

I understand that one needs to have Internet connectivity to set this up, at least for the app on a mobile device, and perhaps from the Gen3 Gateway Pro also (in addition to between the mobile device and the gateway). That’s icky but Im not trying to fight that.

Let’s say you have paired a shade and a remote to the Gateway. And that you have HA connect to the gateway. Then you firewall the gateway so it can only talk on the LAN, and you power cycle it. Can you then control shades from HA, and from the remotes, indefinitely, with no need to have the gateway talk to the internet? I would like to hear from people who have actually done this and seen it work over time, and for them to describe anything else I should have asked about and didn’t.

A further question is if the app can work if it can talk to the gateway, but the gateway can’t talk to the Internet. That’s more of a curiousity.

Thanks,
Greg

Ive not tested disconnecting the gateway from the internet but it should work in theory - the calls are all local to the hub, you just lose remote connectivity

When you say seen it work over time - how long are you talking, I can block mine for a week or so if that is helpful, i’m ultimately not fussed if my IoT is phoning home though so it just plugs along atm

I understand that it should work in theory. I asked if people had actually done it because there is a history of some IOT things to intentionally fail operation if they aren’t phoning home enough. I think we simply don’t know about this device, until somebody does the experiment and posts about it. Even then, we know about that firmware version.

A week would be useful; it seems long enough to trigger the likely “shut down if it can’t phone home” code. I really mean firewall it and don’t let it connect for the next 10 years. If you’re in the mood, please do. I have one coming next week, having arranged with the dealer to return the gateway if it fails to work isolated.

I tried to ask the dealer about this, and also HD support. While I wasn’t surprised the dealer people didn’t understand, the support experience was very bad. I was unable to get them to even understand the question.