Installation on "modern" laptop?

Hey Everyone!

I have HA running on an RPi4 2GB with an external SSD. I saw this $200 “laptop” on sale and was wondering whether it’s possible to install HA on it. I wasn’t sure if the internal storage was accessible during setup. Otherwise, it looks great as a HA host (and terrible as a Windows laptop). Does anyone have experience with this device or one like it?

https://www.bestbuy.com/product/hp-14-laptop-intel-n150-processor-4gb-memory-128gb-ufs-storage-natural-silver/JJGW3FGFPZ/sku/6667474

Thanks for your help!

LIke, you can buy an great Win10 MiniPC for H.A. from EBay for 50€

There’s not much point in having a screen as HA runs headless. The only advantage of a laptop is that it has a battery, which gives you a de facto UPS. You’d have to figure something out about charging, though - probably wouldn’t want it to be plugged in all the time.

Yeah, I was looking for new hardware I could pick up easily. The screen would be useless, but the onboard battery is very nice to have. My only concern would be the installer recognizing the storage as a destination. Is that possible?

I don’t think installing on a laptop would be any different from installing on another Windows machine.

The battery would only keep HA going in a power cut, of course. Everything else would be dead.

As the UFS-Storage most likely is “build-in” ( so you can’t change it )
However it’s much faster than a SSD

So you could install HAOS on it, and eventually " Add an external SSD ( Move Data Disk ) " in HA, which will move all your DATA parts of HA, so your “builtin card” only Handle the System Part , of HA ( This is an easy , add and click feature in HA, which will make your buildin card last longer , hopefully ) :slight_smile:

However, and this is a “Culprit” , that laptop, doesn’t have an dedicated Ethernet Port, so You have to Run Ethernet over USB, which initially will give you an “extra task” to overcome
( Just a tip, “some” users have experienced “Lost Connection”, because the poked around in the cabinet( With bunch of cables), an unintentionally manage to "draw out (slightly) the usb cable/adapter, from the Device, without noticing , took them days to “figure it out” , not that i know why !) :joy: ( Adding Another Point of failure, is always a potential risk )

The problem I find with running HA on laptops is that laptops don’t power up after a power failure. Yes, it has a battery and keeps running … until the battery goes flat.

One can find refurbished desktop computers for the same price, often less. And often with more RAM. Their downside is that they use about 18W power which is more than a laptop. (But you get a DVD drive! woo-hoo!)

That depends entirely upon the BIOS, even a refurbished desktop, can lack this feature

Sorry these days are over where you get an DVD drive on a laptop ( most don’t have , i believe )

And let’s face the one fact we should all understand, that during a power cut most if the stuff HA controls will not be functioning anyway so apart from a clean shutdown there is little to be gained and a lot to be overcome maintaining the charging so as not to kill the battery, added to the autostarting.

I would choose a mini pc and a daily backup in case a power cut happens to kill HA, which I have never had. We have a lot of power cuts here being rural with all our power lines on poles. Ha just starts up when the power comes back.

Even this is BIOS controlled. I have it on my Dell laptop (my HA server) & can set the power profile to A/C, so that battery stops charging above 90%, trickle drains slowly by 1% daily until it reaches 60%, then charges back up to 90%.

Most newer Dell LapTops also Support automatic power-on features " Wake On AC "
LOL … i stand corrected , i just checked my OLD Laptop, Latitude E5530 i5 3230M
( 13 years old ! , time flies )
It also support WakeOnAC :grin:

Many PCs (I have old Dells that I use for various projects) can be set to power back on when AC power resumes. These settings can be found in the BIOS. We use these settings in our hospital to bring PCs back online during our generator tests.

I hope you don’t use those PC’s for any “life saving” purposes in Your Hospital, if they Need to be able “Wake on AC”, they are Not Suppose to GO Down at all "

No, we are smarter than that…

A whole building UPS for critical areas is an awesome thing to behold.