Is there Fire / Smoke automation Blueprints?

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Is there a Blueprint / HACS that can manage a fire detection automation?
For example, fire detection if:

  • A smoke sensor detects smoke
  • (option) A temperature sensor exceeds a certain threshold

If fire is detected:

  • Electric shutters open
  • A Telegram message is sent

Thanks

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I think this too basic for a reasonable blueprint, a regular Automation from scratch would fit better.

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If one of the goals was to detect fire via a temperature sensor I wouldn’t want to trigger on a static temp but rather a rapid increase. Looking at a Sonoff temp and humidity sensor, the upper limit is 55c or 131f. In and of itself, 131f is not necessarily an indication of a fire. However, you could use higher temp range sensors like for an oven. Then your only limitation is when the hardware melts. You could search “rate of change sensor” here and see what other folks have done, my hunch is that this would not be achievable with a blueprint alone.

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Quite the opposite.

Op said shutters? No.

If you do these unlock the doors and turn all light on full blast (and point the way to the door.)

But DO NOT automatically open shutters or windows or doors without FULLY UNDERSTANDING the seat of the source and the direction the flame wants to travel (yes, you won’t know unless you are in there)

Because venting a fire can be a good technique to reduce damage if you know exactly what it’s doing… but if you vent the wrong way you cause more harm and possibly drastically reduce the escape time. (ever notice fire doors close - never open automatically) Leave the doors closed unlock the and pop all the lights on full.

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@NathanCu excellent point! Reminds me of a video where they compared doors open vs doors closed in a fire: https://youtu.be/bSP03BE74WA?si=-wokw_WGMvMUXfCM

In the case of a published blueprint, I can see how someone would want to avoid suggesting how to handle ventilation in case of a fire.

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I was going to make this same point, and Nathan gives great advice.
However, you’d be better off running the lights on low if possible. There’s nothing worse than waking up in the middle of the night to bright lights - it always takes some time for your eyes to adjust.

Sorry I can’t help you with the blueprint though

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Hi, I think you misunderstood my point.

I wasn’t talking about ventilation or trying to control the direction of the fire. That’s not the idea at all.

:point_right: The windows stay closed.

:point_right: The electric shutters should automatically open in case of fire.

Why? Because if there’s a fire and the shutters stay closed, they might become impossible to open later — due to power failure, heat damage, or mechanical blockage. If the main escape route is blocked, and the only remaining exit is through a window or terrace door, those shutters must already be open to allow someone to escape or be rescued.

This has nothing to do with venting smoke or flames. It’s purely about ensuring access and avoiding someone getting trapped behind closed shutters when every second counts CFPA-Europe (Confederation of Fire Protection Associations Europe)

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That would fall under unlocked. Wanted to make sure that was clear.

And I the lights thing sorry Lizard…

Respectfully I very much disagree. You want them ALL on if possible when you need to get out - eyes will adjust. Best case you’re already waking up to very loud klaxons too… Possibly strobes depending on the installation and local code. Studies show lights on is faster, reduces confusion and helps orient faster. Yes it’s a shock. Sorry.

Dark with smoke leads to poor orientation. And I’ve pulled my share of people out thanks. Turn on the light. (And practice a family exit plan with a get together spot… :sunglasses:)

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