Matter Server for HA Core 2024.3.3

I have spent time reviewing the stuff in this space for help with the basic question: Do I need to install a separate matter server on my mac (which is where HA core is running) to get the matter devices (like Eve Energy Module) to integrate with HA?
Apple TV 4 gen running - check
HA latest avail rel - check
Thread integr installed - check
Apple Tv configured - check
Apple minipod configured - check
IPs for both of the above known - check
2 and only 2 devices from homekit available to be configured, but neither are matter ( i Have 90+ devices, in homekit ) - ?
NanoLeaf triangles - 3 separate ones detected and running in HA - check
If i try to add a matter device, I dont get the new or old prompt, I always get the add URL here bit. It seems like this would be the url to my apple tv, but I cant get that to work, dont know the url (could scan for it if its even available - but i dont know that).
If ā€˜feelsā€™ like the url prompt question is really asking for my matter server running on my mac. Am I correct that that is what I need before HA will pull stuff in from homekit? info from my preferred thread network : Network name: MyHome2005350035
Channel: 25
Dataset id: 01J8D7RJMBXCSHHJZ0KAMH6VSG
Pan id: e247
Extended Pan id: 6dbd6d8882a84e40

So what am i missing? I need a matter server on my mac?
Thank you for helping.
Rich S.

Welcome to the community!

Home Assistant has an optional add-on server for controlling Matter devices. The add-on usually runs on the same server as Home Assistant, but is capable of running on any IP address, hence the url prompt. In HAOS, adding the Integration should automatically install the add-on, but for other installation methods you need to install, it and edit its url, manually. If you need more assistance, let us know what kind of HA installation you are using on your Mac (virtual machine, docker, python venv, etc).

python
(homeassistant) richschneider@Richs-MacBook-Pro-7 HomeAssistant % hass
Unable to find configuration. Creating default one in /Users/richschneider/.homeassistant

File ā€œ/Users/richschneider/HomeAssistant/homeassistant/lib/python3.11/site-packages/haffmpeg/core.pyā€, line 137, in open
ā€œ/Users/richschneider/anaconda3/lib/python3.11/concurrent/futures/thread.pyā€, line

File ā€œ/Users/richschneider/anaconda3/lib/python3.11/subprocess.pyā€, line 1950, in

is that sufficient or do I need to provide more detail? looking at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a7ZUQqY2JA now. seems pretty straightforward ā€¦

I went thru the process from the youtube to install the matter server. minor hicups but it is running, unfortunately I am now getting this ā€œThe Matter server is not the correct versionā€ when using the urlā€¦ I am getting closer * Python Matter Server

  • FabricId:
    1
    Compressed FabricId:
    6633919343521664000
    SDK Wheels Version:
    2024.9.0
    Schema Version:
    10
    Node count:
    0

Your HA is quite old, update to 2024.9.3.

would all of these problems Evaporate if i switched over to HomeAssistant Green?

it would download the matter server plugin?

If you donā€™t want to invest in the Green just yet, you can also install the HAOS image on a virtual machine, e.g. with Virtual Box or UTM, running on your Mac. The OS makes installing add-ons like the Matter server much simpler, in many cases it is done automatically. Edited to add: it is also much easier to upgrade to the latest version.

First Off - THANK YOU for responding and explaining. Its hugely helpfulā€¦
I am loving HA the more I use it. I do have issues, but I think that mostly because of the temporary nature of the test that I setup.

ok i really do not care about the cost. i chose python to begin with , because i love python and do lots of things with it. (huge obsidian fan - integrate python with it for lots of things) anyway i have been a long time user of Smart Home stuff, (most of which should be called extremely dumb stuff). Anyway After using HA for a week I am sold. So now its a question of what is the most robust way to implement HA. I think its Green. If thats true that I dont want to spend any moe time on partials or testing etc. I want the best path forward. is that Green? or would you recommend I go the HAOS image on VM. I can do that it will just take some time.
Rich S

For Matter then Home Assistant OS (HAOS) is the easy way to go - whether in a VM or on bare metal. You can make it work in Docker, but it takes more work.

A Green is a decent starter platform. ā€œBestā€ is personal, but Iā€™m a fan of small form factor PCs. Something with a 4+ core Intel 4-8th gen or higher and at least 8GB of RAM.

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ok got it, I will start down the VM HAOS path.
Rich S.

Well I a appear to be stuck. Got Virtual box installed on mac - check
used the vdi from HA - check (its on a virtual hd)
Made most of the mods as required etc. EFI on, etc.
but when I boot the shell comes up and always says NO map. I think that means that there is no boot diskā€¦ I think at least map -r in the shell comes back with nothing. so quintipple checked everything multiple times. Boot order is the Virtual disk first. EFI on. the only oddities that i can see is that I only had choices for higher order Linux OSs Linus/subtype oracle linux version oracle linux Arm64bit. The docs are showing much earlier versions. (I dont think this would be the issue) Adapter is bridged. some clips below, I have tried a lot of things, but mostly its just guess work. I missed some step, but I dont know what it was.
.

Ok well problems over !!!
I tried at least 3 maybe 4 different virtual serversā€¦ lots of the issues the the whole UEFI thing. over and over across VB and 2 other virtual servers. Then I found a guy with step by step instructions in youtube for UTM , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-rWFAuz8ls anyway it worked PERFECTLY!!! HAOS up. Matter working perfectly. also found at least 1 of my 4 reolink cameras. Matter Nanoleafs working. Matter EVE stuff working perfectly. Basically PERFECTION!!! Thank you all for the guidance.

Separately I have a shitload of Leviton stuff, which has always been problematic, its up its down its upā€¦ Anyway I am switing to caseta Lutron. Damn that stuff is both super simple to install (as in 10 seconds or less) and its FAST and it seems to be super reliable. for dollars its expensive, but for TIME its incredibly cheap. the latter is much more important to meā€¦

I do have a question I can see a point in time when I hit the 75 limit. My research is that I can add a second lutron hub and just keep adding stuff to that one, if I need it and HA will happily create a new integration for it. Sound right to everyone?
Rich S.