Migrate to HA for motion sensors?

I have hubitat and its fine, but motion is driving me crazy and moaking rules more complicated than they need to be.

Its also slow and im being told to remove everything and add it all back - i have 100 ish devices that will take a long time

Currently mix of Zigbee and zwave

my main goal it to get everything much more reliable

I have a four wifi AP so coverage is good there

Good Wifi does not help much with Zigbee and Z-wave stuff. But I never had problems with sluggish motion sensors in HA

Who is telling you that and why? That makes no sense in Hubitat.

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it not just the motion sensors - i have 4 of them in my hallway and i can walk down the hall to the room every work perfect do some stuff in the room for 1-2-3 minutes, and walk back down the hall and nothing will activate

also the motion sensors seem to fade over time and range goes down along with detection speed.

i want to get MM but i don’t see any that are considered good that hubitat can use

see above

Try the easy stuff. Change battery even if they report 100%. Often can happen that sensors are low on battery even if their battery status is 100%.

Home assistant alone will not make your network or sensors better or worst. It will use what you provided. If your network is stable and have a good coordinator it will work just fine in home assistant.

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i have spent day trouble shooting it. try everything - many devices removed and readded- it just done not make any sense at all

rebooting the hub fixes it for a while and it can also go days without happening as well

this is with both zwave and zigbee devices

Well it is hard to say is this a network related problem or with hubitat.
I’m just saying that if you have a network problem it will not go away just by switching to home assistant.

You have to decide it for yourself. It is your setup and you know better then any of us how you done it and what problems you are facing.

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So how many of those devices for the zigbee and zwave ones are acting as routers for the meshing? and how good is the overall signal strength between them.

As this sounds like your mesh for those protocols is not fleshed out as well as you think you have it and should have it.

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I bought some repeaters then based on advice - that later down the road i was told i had too many

So i have tried a lot - when thing are working its perfect light come fast even one far from the hub,

example my office/kitchen lights will turn (far from hub) then when I trigger lights/motion that are FEET from the HUB they don’t work, grab my wallet in the master room and walk back into the haul and they work again.

The advice i was give was remove everything and start over that it must be mesh issue - I do have a lot of zigbee bulbs but i specifically bought the none-repeater type and i have reduce the number by half or more to try and get things working better however this has not made a difference

the weird part it is both zigbee and zwave, all of my motions sensors are zigbee and all hardwired lights are zwave

I should have more then enough repeaters for both networks (and i have channel 9-11 off on my wifi to prevent zigbee interference) I live in the country so i cannot even see any other wifi.

another example - i trying to make new rule and walked into my living room the first 3 lights came on (zigbee bulbs) but t the zwave did not for about 3 seconds and 3 other zigbee bulbs did not turn on at all…

I don’t see an answer to my question, especially who told you to do this.

There would be no reason to remove and re-pair the sensors, unless they were Z-wave devices paired with S0 security (which takes 3x the traffic).

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people on the hubitat forum

Perhaps give the link to it? I read that forum.

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from 2 years ago - note my last comment turning of those lights didn’t help it all came back

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This suggests that it’s not an issue with the motion sensors. It’s an issue with your zigbee & zwave meshes.

How many lights are you controlling at once with your motion sensors? Unfortunately, it’s a relatively common issue that sending multiple commands at the same time will result in lost commands. Setting up zigbee groups helps to an extent, but is not guaranteed to always work. Not sure if Zwave has the option to create zwave groups though.

the hall lights are 9 zigbee bulbs and 1 zwave dimmer

the living lights are 1 z zwaze dimmer and 6 zigbee lights

the kitchen is 5 zigbee lights

my office is 3 zigbee lights

I have tried everything I can think of making it so only 2-3 are triggered at a time and still same results.

the other reason im look at HA is because of mmwave they seem to have many more options on that front.

My thought is if i have to rebuild everything anyway the platform changes is not that bad ?

Try home assistant, why not.
But you might have networking issue as light bulbs are usually bad routers.
If so you will have the same problems using ha.

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I predominantly use Hubitat but use HA for things HE doesn’t do. I added a zigbee network on HA specifically for my mmwave sensors because they are VERY chatty.

the bulbs i have are not routers they only function as endpoints

Ok, some of them are now made as end points but a lot of them were being sold as routers and are even today. Especially when this was a thing.