New Groups editing

Loving (I Think) the new groups feature, already simplified a few things greatly for me ( a new HA user)

But how do you edit what is in a group? I think i may have one wrong as I should have put 2 motion sensors in it, but only one seems to be triggering the automation im using it. So I want to check what entities are in the group.

But I cant figure out how to do it…

How do I tell and edit wheat is in this group ???

Click configure state

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Another way (just for viewing, not editing the membership):

  • Go to Developer Tools > States and find binary_sensor.stairs_motion_sensor_group

  • Its members are listed in its entity_id attribute.


Unrelated to the question, just an observation: the new UI-based Group Helper doesn’t actually create group entities. The entity’s domain depends on which “group type” is chosen during its creation (binary_sensor, lock, cover, etc).

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It’s light groups expanded to other domains. A light group created a light. With this release, they added a ton of other ‘domain’ groups to the mix where they only had cover and light groups prior to this release.

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Bingo! Thanks guys…should of clicked on everything randomly :wink:

So Am i using this wrong? Ive got an automation that I want to trigger from ‘either’ motion sensor, that only allows in the GUI to select one entitiy. So I selected that group to be the trigger. But only seems be triggering from one of them at the moment

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Haha, that’s exactly how I find things.

You should read up on group behavior. Pretty much, the group will be on if one or more motion sensors are on. If one is on, and another one is on, the group state will not change from on to more on. So HA will not see that state change. If you want to see every off → on transition for each entity in the group, don’t use a group. List the entities in the automation or copy the automation twice, each with it’s own entity.

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THanks petro…

Sounds like I should be good to go, I think, this is a motion sensor at bottom and top of stairs. Basically, don’t care which one is triggered first , the lights should come on when one of them is triggered, and then the automation will time out when no motion is seen and turn off after .

Only seems to work if the bottom one is triggered atm, so Ill need to see why that is…

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Click configure state

I know this is an unhelpful comment from me, but OMG is this unintuitive. I… would’ve never actually figured this one out on my own.

  1. Thanks.
  2. There ought to be a better way to indicate what this does.

It’s already known that this is a poor way to do this. This is just a placeholder until the actual solution is in place.

The fact that Groups is hidden under Helpers is also incredibly unintuitive also IMHO. Great functionality especially as I can now reassign plugs to lights with Switch as X but unintuitive.

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Hi. I am running 2022.6.4, and made a light group (to use with the presence simulation integration) of about 20 lights. Unlike the example above to reconfigure them by clicking the “configure state” link, no such option exists for this group. If I go to the developer option, in the states menu the entity does sow up with all the light entities. But there is no option edit that I can see.

Am I missing something?

Also, am I misreading the name of the group created? it’s in the light domain (light.lights_ps), not group.lights_ps. Presence simulation is complaining about me trying to configure that entity as a group, and am wondering if this is the problem.

thx

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Same here, can’t edit excising groups

Found it after few weeks. LOL

Click SET STATE few times and you should be good

that’s still not it :wink: