Set brightness without turning on light?

Everyday, I set all associating lights back to their “brightness level”.

E.g.

  1. We turn on Living Room in the evening without a specific level (i.e.“default” 90%)
  2. In a few hours we decide to lower to 30%
  3. Go to bed
  4. To prevent the next evening from being at 30% I have an automation that sets the light at 8 a.m. to 90% but have to turn it on then off quickly

Is there anyway to “reset” the light to a brightness without needing to turn it on? I don’t want to set all my automations to a brightness, because of an issue with motion detection. I go to turn down the brightness as the night goes on and I don’t want to reset always back to 90%.

I noticed a feature request for something like this but not sure if there has been anything added that anyone is aware of since then. The only alternative I can think of is using scenes instead, but I don’t want to rethink the entirety of our workflow for using our lights

It’s only possible if your light supports it (the hardware). 99% of hardware does not support this.

It is rather annoying not being able to set brightness/color without actually turning on a light.

I typically use a fade on/off option when doing light automation.

You can also use ‘choose’ action to set the lights at different color/level depending on other criteria (time/date/existing light level/etc), it can get complicated quickly, but better to keep as simple as possible.

Ah okay, so this is very much just a hardware based issue rather than a HomeAssistant capability if I understand correctly

That is correct. Home assistant can do it if the light itself has the ability to set it without turning it on. Most APIs do not offer this functionality.

Custom ESP or Tasmota devices are the only ones off the top of my head that support it.

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Lifx supports this too.

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I have to test this out, but I had a thought of: what if I set the transition to be like 30 seconds or a minute but then go right to turn the light off. I wonder if this would avoid the flashing on.

FWIW, most of my bulbs and lights are either Philips Hue Zigbee, or Z-Wave Dimmers.

Alternatively, I ended up seeing some people set up some sort of variable to keep track of but that just seems annoying to pursue on top of everything else I got going on in my yaml files.