Sinope Line Voltage Thermostats

claudegel · May 5, 2025, 3:48am

In ZHA there is a last_seen value for each device but it is not set as a sensor. depending on your HA, each update for each devices is stored in the database sqlite or mysql. It is possible to setup a sensor that will scan the database to get the last updated timestamp for each device you want to follow. Normally a powered device will be updated every 10 minutes and a battery sensor at least every 25hrs.
I’m presently porting all Sinopé devices to quirks V2 and i will see if I can add a sensor for last seen timestamp. I see that you have a TH1400ZB and TH1300ZB. Is it possible for you to send me a device scan from zha toolkit. This will give me all cluster / attribute specific to those two devices. In quirks V2 all important / usefull attributes are added as a sensor or a number or a select entities so they are directly usable in automation.
For example your automation can be rewritten to send the temperature to an entity like number.your_thermostat_outdoor_temp. No need for ieee, cluster and attributes.
You can scan your devices in dev tools/actions:
action: zha_toolkit.scan_device

data:
  ieee: 00:0d:6f:00:05:7d:2d:34 <--ieee of your thermostats
  endpoint: 1
  event_success: my_read_success_trigger_event
  event_fail: my_read_fail_trigger_event
  event_done: my_read_done_trigger_event

This will create a file in config/scans. Post the content or if you want send it by email.

Cognoquest · May 5, 2025, 11:12am

Hello @claudegel,

I was going to pm you with the requested info but it seems that there is a number of character limitation that can be sent. I have instead emailed you the information so you can get going on your changes. Let me know if you need anything more.

I will try later to setup a sensor as you suggested. Also I am not sure what version of quirks I am on to run Sinopé V2… if or when it is available. I may have to get back to you on how to install all this. I am running HA core with mysql.

Any idea on what is going on here: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/sinope-line-voltage-thermostats/17157/2093?u=cognoquest ?

Thanks,
P.

claudegel · May 5, 2025, 9:46pm

My quirks V2 is available for testing. It’s on my git:

Just copy the 4 files and replace the one you have in config/zhaquirks. Then restart HA. It won’t change your device name. Youe old automations will still work. But you will see many new sensor, number, select etc in the device card in ZHA. Each is a complete entitie that can be used for automations. No more need to create sensors to read attributes etc.
Tonight I’m doing a big update. to match the PR I’ve done to zha-device-handler.
Thanks for the two devices scans.

claudegel · May 6, 2025, 2:01am

Unfortunately your scan are missing the sinopé manufacturer attributes. Sometime they don’t show up in the scan. If you install the V2 quirks try to re scan as with V2 sometime the devices are more verbose.
Thank for your help.

augustose · May 9, 2025, 5:13pm

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Cannot find a valid ref in

refactor/custom_components/neviweb130

claudegel · May 9, 2025, 6:35pm

Hi @augustose the custom_component is there:
sinope-130/custom_components/neviweb130 at master · claudegel/sinope-130 · GitHub.
But to install it your better go via HACS. It will install neviweb130 automatically.
Look for Sinope neviweb130

jdawson · May 20, 2025, 3:04pm

This is such a silly problem I am truly embarrassed I have to ask.

I am using the GT125 integration.

If I turn up or down the temperature in HA everything works fine.

But when I go look in the logbooks I don’t see the event anywhere.

When I look at the history I don’t see anything.

I have this event today where the tempeture got turned down low and I don’t know why.

But I have no logs to show.
Why?

claudegel · May 20, 2025, 3:30pm

Normally this is fired by the HA event bus. Each time s device change his state an event is fired in the event bus and recorded in the history. This is generated when a service action is performed like change setpoint or change mode. On your graph the yellow light is the setpoint and the change should be registered in the logbook. The drop to 5oC is probably an error during device update or a confusion in message reception from the GT125. Normally, each request for device update is coded with a request number and wait for that number in the answer from the device via the GT125. It is possible that the answer was altered or two answer for different request came back at the same time. I need to improve request validation during device update to avoid this.
Thanks for reporting. What is your scan_interval for the GT125 ?

jdawson · May 20, 2025, 4:41pm

sinope:
  server: "10.0.2.230"
  id: "XXXXXX"
  api_key: "XXXXXXX"
  scan_interval: 60

logger:
  default: warning
  logs:
    homeassistant.custom_components: debug
    custom_components.neviweb: debug
    custom_components.sinope: debug

Even If I turn up and DOWN temperature inside HA nothing is showing in my logs.

Also the temperature really did get turned down. And I was using HA to see if I can figure out what triggered it.

I think I somehow triggered it by mistake but none of the climate changes for the GT125 or the Neviweb are showing in my logbook and i don’t know why even if make changes using HA.

Joe

jdawson · May 31, 2025, 3:28pm

@claudegel any thoughts on this?

claudegel · May 31, 2025, 3:56pm

I was really busy with changes in Neviweb to fit with Hilo.
As I said, it is probably a collision in the Gt125 where two request responses were mixed or truncated. I need to improve my request to the GT125 to reject any misconfigured response.

Cognoquest · June 2, 2025, 3:39pm

Hello @claudegel

As you know I updated to ‘zigpy.quirks.v2’ and I am now getting this error:

2025-06-02 11:19:57.482 ERROR (SyncWorker_14) [zhaquirks] Unexpected exception importing custom quirk 'sensor'
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/srv/homeassistant/lib/python3.13/site-packages/zhaquirks/__init__.py", line 479, in setup
    spec.loader.exec_module(module)
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap_external>", line 1026, in exec_module
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 488, in _call_with_frames_removed
  File "/home/homeassistant/.homeassistant/config/zhaquirks/sensor.py", line 231, in <module>
    .sensor(  # Zone status
     ~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
        attribute_name=SinopeTechnologiesIasZoneCluster.AttributeDefs.zone_status.name,
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    ...<6 lines>...
        entity_type=EntityType.DIAGNOSTIC,
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    )
    ^
TypeError: QuirkBuilder.sensor() got an unexpected keyword argument 'suggested_display_precision'
2025-06-02 11:19:57.491 DEBUG (SyncWorker_14) [zhaquirks] Loading custom quirk module 'switch'
2025-06-02 11:19:57.496 ERROR (SyncWorker_14) [zhaquirks] Unexpected exception importing custom quirk 'switch'
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/srv/homeassistant/lib/python3.13/site-packages/zhaquirks/__init__.py", line 479, in setup
    spec.loader.exec_module(module)
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap_external>", line 1026, in exec_module
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 488, in _call_with_frames_removed
  File "/home/homeassistant/.homeassistant/config/zhaquirks/switch.py", line 759, in <module>
    .sensor(  # Timer countdown
     ~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
        attribute_name=SinopeManufacturerCluster.AttributeDefs.timer_countdown.name,
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    ...<7 lines>...
        entity_type=EntityType.DIAGNOSTIC,
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    )
    ^
TypeError: QuirkBuilder.sensor() got an unexpected keyword argument 'suggested_display_precision'
2025-06-02 11:19:57.498 DEBUG (SyncWorker_14) [zhaquirks] Loading custom quirk module 'thermostat'
2025-06-02 11:19:57.641 WARNING (SyncWorker_14) [zhaquirks] Loaded custom quirks. Please contribute them to https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers
2025-06-02 11:20:01.802 WARNING (MainThread) [zha.application.discovery] Device: 50:0b:91:40:00:06:04:4b-Sinope Technologies TH1400ZB has an entity with details: {'cluster_details': (1, 65281, <ClusterType.Server: 0>), 'entity_metadata': ZCLSensorMetadata(entity_platform=<EntityPlatform.SENSOR: 'sensor'>, entity_type=<EntityType.CONFIG: 'config'>, cluster_id=65281, endpoint_id=1, cluster_type=<ClusterType.Server: 0>, initially_disabled=False, attribute_initialized_from_cache=True, unique_id_suffix=None, translation_key='floor_limit_status', fallback_name='Floor limit status', attribute_name='floor_limit_status', attribute_converter=None, reporting_config=ReportingConfig(min_interval=10, max_interval=3600, reportable_change=1), divisor=1, multiplier=1, unit=None, device_class=None, state_class=<SensorStateClass.MEASUREMENT: 'measurement'>)} that does not have an entity class mapping - unable to create entity
2025-06-02 11:20:01.807 ERROR (MainThread) [zha.application.gateway] Failed to create platform entity: <class 'zha.application.platforms.select.ZCLEnumSelectEntity'> [args=('50:0b:91:40:00:06:04:4b-1', [<zha.zigbee.cluster_handlers.ClusterHandler object at 0x7f7d3998b110>], <zha.zigbee.endpoint.Endpoint object at 0x7f7d399a3ce0>, <CustomDeviceV2 model='TH1400ZB' manuf='Sinope Technologies' nwk=0xA19F ieee=50:0b:91:40:00:06:04:4b is_initialized=True> - quirk_applied: True - quirk_or_device_class: zigpy.quirks.v2.CustomDeviceV2 - quirk_id: None), kwargs={'entity_metadata': ZCLEnumMetadata(entity_platform=<EntityPlatform.SELECT: 'select'>, entity_type=<EntityType.CONFIG: 'config'>, cluster_id=65281, endpoint_id=1, cluster_type=<ClusterType.Server: 0>, initially_disabled=False, attribute_initialized_from_cache=True, unique_id_suffix=None, translation_key='pump_protection_status', fallback_name='Pump protection status', enum=<class 'thermostat.PumpStatus'>, attribute_name='pump_protection_status', reporting_config=None)}]
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/srv/homeassistant/lib/python3.13/site-packages/zha/application/gateway.py", line 335, in create_platform_entities
    platform_entity = platform_entity_class.create_platform_entity(
        *args, **kw_args
    )
  File "/srv/homeassistant/lib/python3.13/site-packages/zha/application/platforms/select.py", line 201, in create_platform_entity
    return cls(unique_id, cluster_handlers, endpoint, device, **kwargs)
  File "/srv/homeassistant/lib/python3.13/site-packages/zha/application/platforms/select.py", line 214, in __init__
    self._attr_options = [entry.name.replace("_", " ") for entry in self._enum]
                                                                    ^^^^^^^^^^
TypeError: 'type' object is not iterable
2025-06-02 11:20:01.889 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.helpers] Error while adding entity from entity data: EntityData(entity=<zha.application.platforms.select.ZCLEnumSelectEntity object at 0x7f7d39919950>, device_proxy=<homeassistant.components.zha.helpers.ZHADeviceProxy object at 0x7f7d3992d6d0>, group_proxy=None)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/srv/homeassistant/lib/python3.13/site-packages/homeassistant/components/zha/helpers.py", line 1169, in async_add_entities
    entities_to_add.append(entity_class(entity_data))
                           ~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/srv/homeassistant/lib/python3.13/site-packages/homeassistant/components/zha/select.py", line 55, in __init__
    super().__init__(entity_data, **kwargs)
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/srv/homeassistant/lib/python3.13/site-packages/homeassistant/components/zha/entity.py", line 45, in __init__
    meta = self.entity_data.entity.info_object
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.13/functools.py", line 1039, in __get__
    val = self.func(instance)
  File "/srv/homeassistant/lib/python3.13/site-packages/zha/application/platforms/select.py", line 232, in info_object
    options=self._attr_options,
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
AttributeError: 'ZCLEnumSelectEntity' object has no attribute '_attr_options'

LowFatMom · June 2, 2025, 4:02pm

Do you need the quirks installed for the blueprints/automations to works?

claudegel · June 2, 2025, 4:10pm

suggested_display_precision

is still not implemented in regular ZHA. This is to remove the decimal in the value reported by sensor.

ZCLEnumSelectEntity

is in ZHA not in the quirks. Will report this to ZHA team

claudegel · June 2, 2025, 4:14pm

Normally no except if it imply specific things that are only in the quirks. But now the quirks in sinope-zha are the same as ZHA. The blueprints does not accept ieee as entity so you need to use device names instead.
If you use the new V2 quirks then the blueprints are not working as most of the attributes are now added directly as sensor, number, select etc. I need to modify the blueprints to support the V2 quirks.

Cognoquest · June 2, 2025, 4:30pm

Thanks @claudegel

Note that I am also stuck on HA

Core 2025.2.0
Frontend 20250205.0

I have not been able to update core for quite a long time. ZHA is failing during my updates. Not sure if this is the same problem as here: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/2025-4-2-all-zigbee-devices-unresponsive/877646

LowFatMom · June 2, 2025, 4:31pm

I did not install the quirks yet, I tried the outdoor temp blueprint and used entity names (I selected them from the drop down menu) and my thermostat still don’t show the outdoor temp. Do I need to enable something else?

claudegel · June 2, 2025, 5:13pm

For the pump_protection_status bug I’ve update thermostat.py in the V2 quirks.It should clear the error ```
ZCLEnumSelectEntity

claudegel · June 2, 2025, 5:24pm

For the outside temperature you need to set attr config_2nd_display 0x0012 to value 2. You can do it in the manage zigbee device you already used.
Then you can use this automation if you are with regular ZHA.

- id: Heat-OutdoorTemp
  alias: Heat-OutdoorTemp
  triggers:
    - trigger: state
      entity_id: sensor.varennes_local

  variables:
    thermostats:
      - 50:0b:91:40:00:02:26:6d
      - f0:82:c0:ff:fe:62:bd:72

  actions:
    - repeat:
        count: "{{thermostats|length}}"
        sequence:
          - action: zha.set_zigbee_cluster_attribute
            data:
              ieee: "{{ thermostats[repeat.index-1] }}"
              endpoint_id: 1
              cluster_id: 0xff01
              cluster_type: in
              attribute: 0x0010
              value: "{{ ( trigger.to_state.state|float * 100 ) |int }}"
  mode: single

in thermostat you put all your thermostat ieee, one per line.
You can put in configuration.yaml:
automation mine: !include_dir_merge_list automation/
then create a directory in config, automation
in automation create a file for example, auto_update.yaml and paste the automation code above.
After just reload the automation in HA

LowFatMom · June 2, 2025, 5:30pm

I cannot set the value to « 2 » ?