Was looking for a touch screen thermostat for 2 bedrooms. Currently I have a Shelly wifi screen that shows the temperature and humidity for the room and I use that info in a HA thermostat to control an oil heater smart plug in the room. But I have to use HA to change the temp or my assistant. I was looking for something to mount to the wall to be a thermostat that would allow you to change temps and etc all locally over wifi. this allows for someone without the app to control the room.
Any ideas that don’t take a electro tech degree to get to work? I can’t seem to find anything but using a Nest in the room but that uses their cloud…
How do you get a thermostat out of an android device. I get you can use it to manage the temp but it does not act as a thermostat for the room it’s control only
sorry everyone seems to be miss-understanding here and are just suggesting displays to control home assistant and none of these features will take the temperature of the room, so I’m going to rephrase because maybe I wasn’t clear above.
I would like a single device in the room to control the temperature in the room. it will have to take the temperature of the room humidity I could care less about but also control the temperature… AKA a thermostat and it needs to wirelessly connect to home assistant and use no cloud.
Basically like a Nest or Ecobee thermostat in each room and it will take the temp of the room and control it but uses wifi to talk to home assistant. so far the only solution I can find is the ecobee 3 lite for like $150 I can use home kit with it to wirelessly connect to it after its setup…it’s just 150$ cdn… just looking for other solutions if possible
Ahh, you want sensors too.
Actually phones usually have a thermometer built-in, but I understand that it might not be the way you want it.
You probably need to look for some Tuya WiFi Wall Thermostat on your Chinese market place.
I can not recommend any, because I do not do WiFi for such things and definitely not Tuya either.
The trick is to actually get a WiFi device and not a WiFi Zigbee device without WiFi parts. https://www.aliexpress.us/w/wholesale-wall-thermostat.html?spm=a2g0o.home.search.0
I’m honestly thinking a ecobee 3 lite thermostat but I have no idea if they’ll work with none of the cords plugged into the back. and it feels like you’re paying for a lot of features that you will never use. I know I’d have to supply the 24 volts to it which is not a big deal. I’m just surprised there’s not a screen that’s a thermostat and it just talks to smart hubs
sorry also it does not have to be a touch screen it could just be a thermostat with an LCD on it with buttons to change the temperatures. but it needs to have some sort of smart capabilities to talk to a hub without requiring a cloud…
There is, but not based on WiFi, because WiFi is a transport protocol and not a communication protocol.
Z-Wave, Zigbee, Matter and so on have a huge selection of these.
Well, that is the issue.
WiFi has no standard hubs, so you will have to break it free from whatever system it is configured for.
Moes seems like a brand mentioned a bit here, so maybe they have a product.
sorry maybe I should rephrase I say Wi-Fi because I’m not thinking, it could ZigBee or z-wave . Sorry really bad phrasing by using wifi… but I know homekit matter all those things use Wi-Fi… my ecobee that’s in the living room that actually controls my HVAC has homekit capabilities and when I turned it on home assistant saw it instantly through my home kit bridge integration.
I don’t care what it is as long as it works locally
I suggest you look into Z-Wave, Zigbee or Matter (especially Matter over Thread).
These are all local mesh protocols, so the mains powered devices generally relay messages for end devices and the protocols are specifically made to be lightweight, so they do not drain batteries fast.
All three are open protocols.
Z-Wave and Matter have a certification program, which ensures that devices with a certificate just works. This limits the selection of products a bit and make the products a bit more expensive
Zigbee do not have such a program, so you will get a huge selection of devices, but since the protocol can extended by vendors, then some products might need quirks, which is small pieces of code to make the Zigbee system understand the extended data set.
Z-Wave also have the benefit of running on the 900/868Mhz frequency band, so it will not be affected by saturation in the 2.4Ghz band, where both Zigbee and Matter over Thread and WiFi sits.
This is what I’m using, connects through wifi, talks mqtt and includes a temperature sensor. I use the buttons to switch on/off the thermostat, next set of buttons to raise/lower temperature by 0.5 degrees. The interface is configurable and includes various pages. I use same device in my living room to control mediaplayer, and on next page my sun screens.
MQTT is supported in newer FW revision via dedicated menu
HA forum has it’s own thread
Maybe not the most accurate in temperature reading (it has calibration settings) but very versatile and with a lot of built in functions so HA can be used only for smart things leaving the day-to-day operation to the thermostat.
There are versions with volt free output and versions with mains powered relay
This wifi thing is (was?) sold dirt cheap (~$20) and is compatible with esphome which means full local control & ownership (contrary to many other-solutions based on ZigBee or Matter)
This looks like the zwave version of it… seems there is zwave, wifi and stand alone… but yeah this is what I am looking for ones like this ESPHome is great for connecting to devices
Indeed, if you want full local control this is undoubtly the best way
If you follow the links found in link you find that many types of this device exist with different specifications - also you want to avoid the dual band (2.4+5GHz) version as this is guaranteed not compatible with espHome at the moment
