I have a couple of people who visit every now and then, but don’t have devices in our HA setup; and depending if they are around etc, I want automations to handle things accordingly. Is there a way to have a person’s presence controlled by anything other than a device? Ideally, there’d be a button …

To clarify… Do you just want to add one to the value of zone.home? Or is it something more complicated?

Create an automation that responds to either an input boolean or a button helper (or a button) that uses the device tracker see action with home or not_home as appropriate I have a ‘guest’ user and an input boolean when I want ‘guest more on’ flip the switch. It pops device tracker.see - home for t…

How about an NFC tag that your guests can scan when they enter to let Home Assistant know they are there?

If they have a phone, Bermuda will identify it without it having to be registered anywhere else in HA. [image] GitHub - agittins/bermuda: Bermuda Bluetooth/BLE Triangulation /... Bermuda Bluetooth/BLE Triangulation / Trilateration for HomeAssistant

Nott unless it is set to act as a ibeacon, and for me that worked with varying success. Or do you know a way to identify a phone without HA acting as iBeacon?

There’s a guide to getting the IRK here: [image] Getting the IRK for your phone Community Guides Devices that use Bluetooth randomised mac address security and an IRK ( Identity Resolving Key ) - which is to say all smartphones - can be tracked by installing the Private BLE…

I won’t be asking my guests to pair their phone any time soon :grinning: Would be nice if the code to get the IRK is added to esphome at some point.

[image] NathanCu: Create an automation that responds to either an input boolean or a button helper (or a button) that uses the device tracker see action with home or not_home as appropriate I tried this and it didn’t work. I am trying to use a boolean to indicate a specific person is ‘home’.…

[image] baz123: The automation requires a mac address for them. The action Nathan recommended, device_tracker.see , does not require a MAC address… the only required configuration variable is an identifier string, dev_id, that you can just make up.

[image] Didgeridrew: The action Nathan recommended, device_tracker.see , does not require a MAC address When I tried, the automation failed with a ‘requies Mac address’ error. However, I discovered that, as you say, it requires a Dev_ID entry and if you insert a Dev_ID string to the automatio…

Toggling a person in zone, without devices

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jackjourneyman (Jack) August 6, 2025, 4:03pm 7

There’s a guide to getting the IRK here: