Unintentional activation of a Z-Wave wall switch?

Hi everyone,
I’m having a problem that I can’t seem to figure out. I have several multi-button Z-Wave wall switches from Vesternet. I previously had switches from another manufacturer and experienced the same issue. I use these switches to trigger automations, and everything works perfectly otherwise. However, the problem is that sporadically (sometimes once a week or once a month, and especially at night, all the buttons on all the switches suddenly activate simultaneously. I end up waking up at night because the window shutters are opening and closing, etc. Does anyone have any idea what is happening here and how I can stop it?

Many thanks.

Any other app have access to it? Like something you tested then thought you removed? That is usually what it is.

I only paired the roller shutters with HA and the Home Center 3. I didn’t install or delete anything and I’m really at a loss. I think I’ll disable all automations at night so I don’t get startled…
I hope someone can help me, the battery level is at 100% for all the wall switches, and the manufacturer can’t help me either, please help :slight_smile:

I just found something: my Aeotec Gen5 Z-Wave USB stick apparently checked for or requested a firmware update at exactly that time. I’m not sure which, please see the screenshot. At that precise moment, all the wall switches suddenly became active; essentially, if you disable and then re-enable a wall switch in Home Assistant, exactly the same thing happens …

I’ve disabled the firmware entity on the Z-Wave stick for testing purposes curious to see how it goes.

It looks as if the stick was searching for a firmware update and then restarted or so I suspect. I’m not sure if disabling the firmware entity actually achieves anything…

It’s not the switch. It’s your automation.

What are you using as the trigger?

I’ve programmed the buttons to trigger specific actions: opening and closing the roller shutters, setting the heating thermostats to 7 or 28 degrees, and opening and closing the garage door nothing else. I don’t understand what that has to do with it; it happens even when I delete all the automations from the keys.

Nothing in your activity or system logs around that time?
Any crashes, timeouts and silent restarts you may have missed?

The manufacturer contacted me and gave me the crucial tip,
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The problem is actually down to how your smart home hub handles automatic Z-Wave “wake-up” reports, especially during scheduled nightly maintenance. Battery-powered Z-Wave devices go to sleep to save power and periodically wake up (often overnight or every 12–24 hours) to send a quick “I’m alive” wake-up report and battery update to your hub. When your switches wake up, your hub is misinterpreting that background report as a physical button press on all channels at once, which fires off all your automations.
Refine your automation triggers: This solves the issue in almost all cases. Check the triggers for your automations in your hub. Ensure they are strictly set to look for a Central Scene action (specifically “Key Pressed 1x” or a single button press) rather than a generic “Device State Changed” or “Any Update Received.” If the trigger is too broad, any wake-up signal will trip it.

I’ve defined the automation = event type KeyHeldDown, so that I have to hold the button for at least 2 seconds. I think that’s the solution, I’m curious to see. Thanks.