Hello, is it possible to return to the schedule in an automation when the window is closed. At the moment there is only heating or OFF. For the time being, I have solved this by going back to the schedule in the Tado app after manual intervention in 2 minutes. However, this means you can’t manually raise the temperature for 1 hour.
Hi all. I’m trying to configure tado X thermostat with app and HA.
I’ve paired with app tado through zbdongle-e. After successful completing the config the thermostat appears offline. I’ve then enabled NAT64 on OTBR add-on but nothings changed.
I’ve tried to share the device with home assistant and it works. I can change temperature and everything works fine in home assistant. But in tado app is still offline.
I’ve tried to restart HA system but nothing changes.
Somebody can help me please?
Edit: I’ve also tried to factory reset the thermostat, repairing with tado app using zbdongle-e with NAT64 already active, I’ve completed the pairing but still appears online. And on Home Assistant still working. Do I have to buy a Tado X bridge for the first config?
Hi, Reading this topic, I wonder if I should keep, or return my just bought Tado thermostat X, with Bridge.
I bought it because it talks Matter, but from what I read here, only a subset of the normal functionality is available through Matter, if I understand it correctly.
I have a Connect ZBT-1 (formerly know as SkyConnect).
I don’t want to have anything to do with the Tado Cloud, or create an account with Tado. It should simply connect to HA, via the Connect ZBT-1 .
Is that possible, and do I get the complete functionality of the Tado that way?
Reading this topic, I don’t think so, but I would like to hear your expertise on this.
Thanks,Jogchum
I believe it is not possible at the moment, unless you put all scheduling functionality into HA (i.e. by using one of the various smart thermostat scheduling integrations).
unless you put all scheduling functionality into HA (i.e. by one of the various thermostat scheduling integrations).
Well, essentially this is just what I want. But will I get the compete functionality of the device this way?
If you put the scheduling and heating logic into HA (with custom integrations) you are not using the full capabilities of the devices. You are just turning heating on and off with them.
Ah, that’s what I also thought, reading this topic. I’ll return the Tado. Thanks!
I have exactly the same problem. It starts to get long in the tooth that I have to remember to open the Tado app and tap on “resume schedule” every time I close the windows… It starts to feel as if the integration has been abandoned or at least has ground to a near stand-still, which would be a real pitty as the Tado hardware seems to be quite capable. Definitely a lot better than the Tuya thermostat I had before.
As the heating period comes to an end in the northern hemisphere here’s to hoping that the X integration will be ready in 6 months from now, at least the basics.
hi all
im evaluating a Tado X for my new apartment
if i understood properly, local mode is very limited, almost everything must go through the cloud, right?
what can i do via home-assistant without using the cloud?
any alternatives with better local, offline, mode?
i don’t want to spend more than 1000 euros and being vendor locked in a cloud
Hi, I own a Meross Smart Thermostat. It doesn’t allow automations through HA (or Home for that matter). There is only a basic schedule in its own app but I don’t want it to heat when I’m away or the windows are open (I have sensors). So I thought about the Tado.
Are you saying it can’t run HA Automations either? Also, does it have a summer mode (like the Meross) that allows it to cool the place when you have a cooling system integrated in your floor heating?
Unless Tado exposes more features via Matter, it’s unlikely.
AFAIK (not owning a Tado thermostat, so this is just second-hand knowledge) you can set a custom target temperature or switch the heating off. That’s it as far as control goes without the cloud.
As far as alternatives go, Netatmo has the same issues (and in contrast to the Tado X via Matter, this will not ever get fixes as Apple is not expanding HomeKits capabilities any more). There might be some Z-Wave or ZigBee valve thermostats that allow more control, but I haven’t found anything suitable for my installation situation (no AC at the two-wire connection to the heating system, so the central relais needs to be battery-powered).
I don’t want to get into a third wireless system, but if you don’t need a battery-powered actor for the heating unit, HomeMatic IP might provide a system that integrates all or at least most of that functionality locally.
I’m not talking about Matter. Would be nice if they would expose more but at the moment also the cloud-based integration is not compatible. For many months already,
You can use the custom integration to get it working, the devs said April should contain the working Tado libraries in HA core.
Which one are we talking?
I’ve successfully managed to install a tado x wired thermostat and TRVs today. I did them through the app first then shared them with home assistant. All seems to be working well except that the zones all show as “heating” even if the room temp is above the set temp. For example set temp is 18° but the room temp is 20°, it shows as “heating to 20°”
Is there a way for HA to know whether it’s actually calling for heat from the boiler?
Is there anywhere we can see this statement about Tado working in the April release?
I’m considering Tado X thermostat as it is one of the few that fits my cirteria (AFAIK) except that from reading threads here it seems like the functionality in HA is currently severly limited.
If I knew for certain that improved support is due very soon in HA then I would purchase, buit otherwise I will need to rethink my approach.
My criteria below - if anyone has any suggestion other than Tado X, I’d be very happy to hear it!
- Communicate via Zigbee (ZHA) or Matter without an additional hub nor app
- Commisioning via an additional app is an allowable compromise
- Works without needed internet connectivity
- Is a wired thermostat that works with normal UK/IE stat wiring, suitable for a Air-to-Water heat pump system that does not have underfloor heating (we have rads)
- HA integration at least allows to turn heat on/off, set the temperature target, and to see the current on/off state and the current temperature target
- Housing is preferably white, but black is an allowable compromise
- Approximately the same size as the Tado X stat
- Produced by a non-Chinese company
- Aware that this drastically limits my options, but I honestly find most of the Chinese stats unattractive, and (malicious intent or otherwise) I dont want poorly coded devices trying to ring home every few seconds over my network.
If it’s not in April, perhaps in May. It won’t take long anymore. Also, you can use the custom integration in the meantime. Changes to core take time to get in the main releases, you can speed up getting the functionality with this.
Beem using Tado for years and very happy with it. Both their app (which is excellent) and (unfortunately) cloud polling in HA. You could use Homekit for local control over Matter to get some more stability though I’ve noticed the HomeKit sensors don’t give as much data as polling the cloud.
Thanks @Skye.
I was considering the custom integration, but I saw in another thread that recently it is broken:
I dont mean to ask the HA developers to “hurry up”, rather I’m trying to understand if I should spend the money on Tado X or look into an alternative. If the functionality will indeed come at some point in the near future then I’m happy to wait. However, there are so many threads, PRs, and GH Issues all with varying levels of information, that it’s hard to understand if something is really happening and what remains to be done, or if there are just some opinions on what is happening.
I thought either there may be some canonical place to see the intended plan for support, or perhaps someone on this thread might indicate that even with the current limitations (which I dont know the details of) my basic functionality needs are already met.
This is all veering a bit off-topic, no? This thread was supposed to be about using the Tado X via Matter, not their cloud API.