Vistapool Integration

Hi Kajmaj,

Is it not possible with the hf2211 to connect the hydrolife equipment to the internet to be able to register in the vistapool cloud? First I wanted to test how it works in the cloud and what parameters it gives me … then I wanted to integrate it into HA.
Why is it not possible to activate the internet menu in Hidrolife?
Can you also indicate the connections of the Hidrolife equipment as it is connected … VCC, GND, TD, RD?
Thank you very much in advance.

Regards,

@Josser, it is possible to have Hidrolife connected to cloud if you have vistapool wifi module.
Wifi module is connected to the same internal databus as HF2211, they can be connected in parallel (two connectors are available)
With wifi module you have info/control on pH, temperature, filtration timers, pool light, HVAC control eventually, etc., depending on your options.
If you decides to use MODBUS write - Hydrolife must be in manual state, othervise external MODBUS commands does not work properly, data reading works fine everytime.

Q: Why is it not possible to activate the internet menu in Hidrolife?
A: You must have wifi module and activate it in the vistapool service menu

Q: Can you also indicate the connections of the Hidrolife equipment as it is connected … VCC, GND, TD, RD?
A: Do not understand what you are asking for. :woozy_face:

Hi Kajmaj,

Is this correct ?


Sorry for my ignorance, I don’t handle this very well.

Regards.

What you’ve marked is dedicated for Vistapool wifi module.
I have the HF2211 connected to the next on the right and pins 2/3 are used for modbus data (A,B)

I did not try to connect 1/4 from Hydrolife to 1/4 of HF2211 (to power HF) not sure if Hydrolife has sufficient power capacity, it might work or it might burn hydrolife.
I use external pover unit to power HF2211.

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Ok, thanks you for information.

Hi Thomas,

You know if the hf2211 module can help communicate with vistapool. I need to connect the hf2211 to the Hydrolife team and connect to the cloud.

Regards,

@Josser If I understood well, you don¨t have the Vistapool wifi module.

In general, there are 3 ways how to operate Vistapool Hydrolife.

  1. Off-line - via Hydrolife’s control panel
  2. On-line - via cloud connected by wifi module (wifi module acts like kind of HW key and bridge to Vistapool cloud)
  3. On-line - via LAN (no cloud needed) connected to MODBUS (you need any suitable MODBUS converter-HF2211 or any other)

My conclusion

  • there is no way to use wifi module to control Hydrolife locally i.e. w/o cloud
  • there is no way to use HF2211 to communicate with Vistapool cloud
  • you can use wifi module and HF2211 together/in parallel, but it has no sense.

Hi kajmaj,

ok, now i have it clearer.
Excuse my ignorance. We will try to connect by modbus and I will tell you the result.

Thank you.

Version of filtration control only with modified timers and warning in the case of time conflicts.

#---------------------------------------------------#
# HIDROLIFE filtration control via MODBUS (no cloud)#
#---------------------------------------------------#

automation:
#-------------------------------------------------
#         Run cycles in the right time
#-------------------------------------------------

 # Cycle 1
- alias: Filtration_run_cycle1
  initial_state: 'on'
  trigger:
  - platform: template
    value_template: >
      {{ states('sensor.time') == states('sensor.timer_1_mb') }}
  condition:
    condition: and
    conditions:
    - condition: state
      entity_id: input_boolean.bazen
      state: 'on' 
    - condition: state
      entity_id: input_boolean.cycle1_on
      state: 'on'
  action:
    - service: input_boolean.turn_on
      entity_id: input_boolean.filtrace_mb_auto
    - service: script.filtration_mb_toggle

- alias: Filtration_end_cycle1
  initial_state: 'on'
  trigger:
  - platform: template
    value_template: >
      {{ states('sensor.time') == states('sensor.timer_1_mb_end') }}
  condition:
    condition: and
    conditions:
    - condition: state
      entity_id: input_boolean.bazen
      state: 'on' 
    - condition: state
      entity_id: input_boolean.cycle1_on
      state: 'on'
  action:
    - service: input_boolean.turn_off
      entity_id: input_boolean.filtrace_mb_auto
    - service: script.filtration_mb_toggle

 # Cycle 2
- alias: Filtration_run_cycle2
  initial_state: 'on'
  trigger:
  - platform: template
    value_template: >
      {{ states('sensor.time') == states('sensor.timer_2_mb') }}
  condition:
    condition: and
    conditions:
    - condition: state
      entity_id: input_boolean.bazen
      state: 'on' 
    - condition: state
      entity_id: input_boolean.cycle2_on
      state: 'on'
  action:
    - service: input_boolean.turn_on
      entity_id: input_boolean.filtrace_mb_auto
    - service: script.filtration_mb_toggle

- alias: Filtration_end_cycle2
  initial_state: 'on'
  trigger:
  - platform: template
    value_template: >
      {{ states('sensor.time') == states('sensor.timer_2_mb_end') }}
  condition:
    condition: and
    conditions:
    - condition: state
      entity_id: input_boolean.bazen
      state: 'on' 
    - condition: state
      entity_id: input_boolean.cycle2_on
      state: 'on'
  action:
    - service: input_boolean.turn_off
      entity_id: input_boolean.filtrace_mb_auto
    - service: script.filtration_mb_toggle
 # Cycle 3
- alias: Filtration_run_cycle3
  initial_state: 'on'
  trigger:
  - platform: template
    value_template: >
      {{ states('sensor.time') == states('sensor.timer_3_mb') }}
  condition:
    condition: and
    conditions:
    - condition: state
      entity_id: input_boolean.bazen
      state: 'on' 
    - condition: state
      entity_id: input_boolean.cycle3_on
      state: 'on'
  action:
    - service: input_boolean.turn_on
      entity_id: input_boolean.filtrace_mb_auto
    - service: script.filtration_mb_toggle

- alias: Filtration_end_cycle3
  initial_state: 'on'
  trigger:
  - platform: template
    value_template: >
      {{ states('sensor.time') == states('sensor.timer_3_mb_end') }}
  condition:
    condition: and
    conditions:
    - condition: state
      entity_id: input_boolean.bazen
      state: 'on' 
    - condition: state
      entity_id: input_boolean.cycle3_on
      state: 'on'
  action:
    - service: input_boolean.turn_off
      entity_id: input_boolean.filtrace_mb_auto
    - service: script.filtration_mb_toggle
 
#-------------------------------------------------
# Script for "MODBUS write" to control filtration
#-------------------------------------------------
script:
 # script Ovladani filtrace bazenu        
  filtration_mb_toggle:
    sequence: 
    - service: modbus.write_register
      data:
        hub: bazen
        unit: 1
        address: 1041
        value: [0]
    - service: modbus.write_register
      data:
        hub: bazen
        unit: 1
        address: 1043
      data_template:
        value: ["{{states('sensor.filtrace_mb_num') | int}}"]
    - service: modbus.write_register
      data:
        hub: bazen
        unit: 1
        address: 752
        value: [1]
    - delay: 00:00:01
    - service: modbus.write_register
      data:
        hub: bazen
        unit: 1
        address: 757
        value: [1]

#---------------------------------------------------#
#              Timers for filtration                #
#---------------------------------------------------#
input_boolean:
  filtrace_mb_auto:
  cycle1_on:
  cycle2_on:
  cycle3_on:

binary_sensor:
  - platform: template
    sensors:
      konflikt_casu_mb:
        value_template: >
          {% set c1_start = states('sensor.timer_1_mb') %}
          {% set c1_end = states('sensor.timer_1_mb_end') %}
          {% set c2_start = states('sensor.timer_2_mb') %}
          {% set c2_end = states('sensor.timer_2_mb_end') %}
          {% set c3_start = states('sensor.timer_3_mb') %}
          {% set c3_end = states('sensor.timer_3_mb_end') %}
            {% if c1_start > c1_end %}
              false
            {% elif c1_start == c1_end %}
              false
             {% elif c2_start > c2_end %}
              false
            {% elif c2_start == c2_end %}
              false
            {% elif c3_start > c3_end %}
              false
            {% elif c3_start == c3_end %}
              false
            {% else %}
              true
          {% endif %}
        attribute_templates:
          clash_text: >
            {% set c1_start = states('sensor.timer_1_mb') %}
            {% set c1_end = states('sensor.timer_1_mb_end') %}
            {% set c2_start = states('sensor.timer_2_mb') %}
            {% set c2_end = states('sensor.timer_2_mb_end') %}
            {% set c3_start = states('sensor.timer_3_mb') %}
            {% set c3_end = states('sensor.timer_3_mb_end') %}
              {% if c1_start > c1_end %}
                Nesprávné zadání
              {% elif c1_start == c1_end %}
                Nesprávné zadání
              {% elif c2_start > c2_end %}
                Nesprávné zadání
              {% elif c2_start == c2_end %}
                Nesprávné zadání
              {% elif c3_start > c3_end %}
                Nesprávné zadání
              {% elif c3_start == c3_end %}
                Nesprávné zadání
              {% else %}
                Správné zadání
            {% endif %}

input_select:
  cycle1_time:
    name: Cyklus 1 - začátek
    options:
      - '05:00'
      - '06:00'
      - '07:00'
      - '07:30'
      - '08:00'
      - '09:00'
      - '10:00'
  cycle2_time:
    name: Cyklus 2 - začátek
    options:
      - '11:00'
      - '12:00'
      - '13:00'
      - '14:00'
      - '15:00'
  cycle3_time:
    name: Cyklus 3 - začátek
    options:
      - '16:00'
      - '17:00'
      - '18:00'
      - '19:00'
      - '20:00'

  cycle1_end_time:
    name: Cyklus 1 - konec
    options:
      - '06:00'
      - '07:00'
      - '07:30'
      - '08:00'
      - '09:00'
      - '10:00'
      - '11:00'
  cycle2_end_time:
    name: Cyklus 2 - konec
    options:
      - '12:00'
      - '13:00'
      - '14:00'
      - '15:00'
      - '16:00'
  cycle3_end_time:
    name: Cyklus 3 - konec
    options:
      - '17:00'
      - '18:00'
      - '19:00'
      - '20:00'
      - '21:00'
      - '22:00'
sensor:
- platform: template
  sensors:
    timer_1_mb:
      value_template: "{{ states('input_select.cycle1_time') }}"
    timer_2_mb:
      value_template: "{{ states('input_select.cycle2_time') }}"
    timer_3_mb:
      value_template: "{{ states('input_select.cycle3_time') }}"
    timer_1_mb_end:
      value_template: "{{ states('input_select.cycle1_end_time') }}"
    timer_2_mb_end:
      value_template: "{{ states('input_select.cycle2_end_time') }}"
    timer_3_mb_end:
      value_template: "{{ states('input_select.cycle3_end_time') }}"

      #      Conflict of time warning       #
    chybove_hlaseni_filtration_timer:
      value_template: "{{ state_attr('binary_sensor.konflikt_casu_mb', 'clash_text') }}"

      #      Automated set up of value to be written       #
    filtrace_mb_num:
      # automaticke nastaveni hodnot k zapisu do registru pri automatickem ovladani filtrace
      friendly_name: “Filtrace zap-vyp”
      value_template: >
          {% if is_state('input_boolean.filtrace_mb_auto', 'on') %} 1 {% else %} 0 {% endif %}
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Hello there. Thank you for your work on this. I just installed a Vistapool wifi module on my Hayward AquaRite+ controller & chlorinator. It pops up OK in the Vistapool website and I can control it there. But when I add and configure the HACS integration, I don’t see any devices or entities. What should happen after I add the integration?

Would you mind posting the Vistapool document with the modbus details again?

If you want to use Vistapool wifi module you do not need modbus. If you want to use modbus, there is no need to use Vistapool wifi module.

Hi everyone,

Appologies to reply to and older thread. Since the last vistapool update earlier this week, pulling the JSON values from the public vistapool site seems impossible now.
So I’ve decided to try Kajmaj’s approach, and use a HF2211 module in order to get all values through MODBUS.
I followed the wiring example in this thread (pin 2 and 3), but basically, I tried all the pins just to be sure (except pin 1 of course: power).

However, I cannot pull any data from the device when connecting to port 23.
I’ve tried to use any register in this thread (dec and hex) using qModMaster, a tool which I used before with other MODBUS devices, but no luck, I cannot get any data from the HF2211.

Does anyone have any recommendations or ideas please?

thanks in advance

Fixed my own issue using an RS485 USB adapter (ch341) + Raspberry Pi.

@steegy I am also a “victim” of the vistapool update.

Connecting the hidrolife directly with the Raspberry Pi sounds like the perfect solution for me.

So you used the mentioned RS485 USB adapter (ch341) together with the Raspberry Pi without the HF2211?
How did you connected the RS485 USB adapter (ch341) to the hidrolife?
And could you maybe share a link / picture of the RS485 USB adapter (ch341) you are using?

Thanks you :wink:

@ DIeHarke Sure,

Here’s what I did.

I have a Raspberry Pi3 with raspbian installed close to my sugar valley computer.
I already used this Pi to share an RFXCOM controller with my domoticz server using ser2net.
(basically to share a USB module over ethernet)

In order to read the sugar valley’s modbus data, I bought this USB adapter from aliexpress (ch341).

FYI, I only want to read MODBUS data, not write it.

Use the “extern” RS485 connector on the sugar valley computer (right side).
On this connector you need PIN 3 and 4.
PIN 3 = white wire
PIN 4 = red wire

PIN3-white goes to ch341 PIN A
PIN4-red goes to ch341 PIN B

Connect the ch341 to the Pi, and install mbpoll

wget -O- http://www.piduino.org/piduino-key.asc | sudo apt-key add -
echo 'deb http://raspbian.piduino.org stretch piduino' | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/piduino.list
sudo apt update
sudo apt install mbpoll

Find the USB ID using “dmesg | grep tty”

Use mbpoll to read a few registers, in order to test connectivity:
mbpoll -m rtu -b 19200 -t 4 -r 256 /dev/ttyUSB1 -P none -1 -c 31 -q -0

In this example, I read register 256 + the next 31 registers.
-0 is important here, because sugar valley starts with register 0, not register 1 like most devices do.

Then I created this script to import only the values I need, to pre-created domoticz sensors.
(I know my scripting skills are limited, but they do what I need so far :slight_smile: )

mbpoll -m rtu -b 19200 -t 4 -r 100 /dev/ttyUSB1 -P none -1 -c 31 -q -0 > /steegy/vistapool-modbusrtu-domot3/poll-part1
mbpoll -m rtu -b 19200 -t 4 -r 256 /dev/ttyUSB1 -P none -1 -c 31 -q -0 >> /steegy/vistapool-modbusrtu-domot3/poll-part1
mbpoll -m rtu -b 19200 -t 4 -r 1000 /dev/ttyUSB1 -P none -1 -c 31 -q -0 >> /steegy/vistapool-modbusrtu-domot3/poll-part1
mbpoll -m rtu -b 19200 -t 4 -r 1031 /dev/ttyUSB1 -P none -1 -c 31 -q -0 >> /steegy/vistapool-modbusrtu-domot3/poll-part1
mbpoll -m rtu -b 19200 -t 4 -r 1280 /dev/ttyUSB1 -P none -1 -c 31 -q -0 >> /steegy/vistapool-modbusrtu-domot3/poll-part1


##remove spaces and tabs from export file
cat /steegy/vistapool-modbusrtu-domot3/poll-part1 | tr -d "[:blank:]" > /steegy/vistapool-modbusrtu-domot3/poll-part2



############################################
# update Pool Hydrolysis [257] - IDX2537
###########################################

hydrosv=$(cat /steegy/vistapool-modbusrtu-domot3/poll-part2 | grep  '\[257\]' | sed 's/^.*://')
if [ -z "$hydrosv" ]
then
        echo "empty var not doing any update"
else
        hydrosv="$(( hydrosv / 10 ))"
        curl "http://domoticz.steegy.com/json.htm?type=command&param=udevice&idx=2537&nvalue=0&svalue=$hydrosv"
fi

############################################
# update Pool Current pH [258] - IDX2524
###########################################

phsv=$(cat /steegy/vistapool-modbusrtu-domot3/poll-part2 | grep  '\[258\]' | sed 's/^.*://')
if [ -z "$phsv" ]
then
        echo "empty var not doing any update"
else
        phsv=$(echo "scale=2; $phsv /100" | bc)
        curl "http://domoticz.steegy.com/json.htm?type=command&param=udevice&idx=2524&nvalue=0&svalue=$phsv"
fi

############################################
# update current Redox [259] - IDX2522
############################################

redoxcurrentsv=$(cat /steegy/vistapool-modbusrtu-domot3/poll-part2 | grep  '\[259\]' | sed 's/^.*://')
if [ -z "$redoxcurrentsv" ]
then
        echo "empty var not doing any update"
else
        curl "http://domoticz.steegy.com/json.htm?type=command&param=udevice&idx=2522&nvalue=0&svalue=$redoxcurrentsv"
fi

############################################
# update temperature [262] - IDX2514
############################################

tempsv=$(cat /steegy/vistapool-modbusrtu-domot3/poll-part2 | grep  '\[262\]' | sed 's/^.*://')
if [ -z "$tempsv" ]
then
        echo "empty var not doing any update"
else
        tempsv=$(echo "scale=1; $tempsv /10" | /usr/bin/bc)
        ### temp offset = 1.7 degrees
        temp2sv=$(echo "scale=2; $tempsv +1.7" | bc)
        curl "http://domoticz.steegy.com/json.htm?type=command&param=udevice&idx=2514&nvalue=0&svalue=$temp2sv"
fi

############################################
# update Pool Target pH [1284] - IDX2525
############################################

targetphsv=$(cat /steegy/vistapool-modbusrtu-domot3/poll-part2 | grep  '\[1284\]' | sed 's/^.*://')
if [ -z "$targetphsv" ]
then
        echo "empty var not doing any update"
else
        targetphsv=$(echo "scale=2; $targetphsv /100" | bc)
        curl "http://domoticz.steegy.com/json.htm?type=command&param=udevice&idx=2525&nvalue=0&svalue=$targetphsv"
fi

############################################
# update target Redox [1288] - IDX2523
############################################

redoxtargetsv=$(cat /steegy/vistapool-modbusrtu-domot3/poll-part2 | grep  '\[1288\]' | sed 's/^.*://')
if [ -z "$redoxtargetsv" ]
then
        echo "empty var not doing any update"
else
        curl "http://domoticz.steegy.com/json.htm?type=command&param=udevice&idx=2523&nvalue=0&svalue=$redoxtargetsv"
fi

############################################
# update Pool Filtration Status [1057] - IDX2518
############################################

filtrationstatsv=$(cat /steegy/vistapool-modbusrtu-domot3/poll-part2 | grep  '\[1057\]' | sed 's/^.*://')
if [ -z "$filtrationstatsv" ]
then
        echo "empty var not doing any update"
else
        if [ $filtrationstatsv = "0" ];then
                curl "http://domoticz.steegy.com/json.htm?type=command&param=udevice&idx=2518&nvalue=0&svalue=Off"
        elif [ $filtrationstatsv = "1" ];then
                curl "http://domoticz.steegy.com/json.htm?type=command&param=udevice&idx=2518&nvalue=0&svalue=On"
        fi
fi

############################################
# update Pool Filtration Mode [1041] - IDX2519
############################################

filtrationmodesv=$(cat /steegy/vistapool-modbusrtu-domot3/poll-part2 | grep  '\[1041\]' | sed 's/^.*://')
if [ -z "$filtrationmodesv" ]
then
        echo "empty var not doing any update"
else
        if [ $filtrationmodesv = "0" ];then
                curl "http://domoticz.steegy.com/json.htm?type=command&param=udevice&idx=2519&nvalue=0&svalue=Manual"
        elif [ $filtrationmodesv = "1" ];then
                curl "http://domoticz.steegy.com/json.htm?type=command&param=udevice&idx=2519&nvalue=0&svalue=Auto"
        else
                curl "http://domoticz.steegy.com/json.htm?type=command&param=udevice&idx=2519&nvalue=0&svalue=UNKNOWN"
        fi
fi

############################################
# update Pool Pump Flow Status [269] - IDX2711
## get bit number 3 (0x0008)
## 1 = flow running
## 0 = flow stopped
###########################################

flowsv=$(cat /steegy/vistapool-modbusrtu-domot3/poll-part2 | grep  '\[269\]' | sed 's/^.*://')


echo `date '+%d/%m/%Y_%H:%M:%S'` $flowsv >> /steegy/vistapool-modbusrtu-domot3/flow-log

if [ -z "$flowsv" ]
then
        echo "empty var not doing any update"
else


        ##echo "$flowsv"
        ##flowsvbinary=$(echo "obase=2;$flowsv" | bc)
        ##echo "$flowsvbinary"

        ##flowsvhex=$(echo "obase=16;$flowsv" | bc)
        ##echo "$flowsvhex"


flowsv=$((("$flowsv" & 0x0008) != 0))
        ##echo "$flowsv"

        if [ $flowsv = "1" ];then
                curl "http://domoticz.steegy.com/json.htm?type=command&param=udevice&idx=2711&nvalue=1"
                echo "flow running" >> /steegy/vistapool-modbusrtu-domot3/flow-log

        elif [ $flowsv = "0" ];then
                curl "http://domoticz.steegy.com/json.htm?type=command&param=udevice&idx=2711&nvalue=0"
                echo "flow stopped" >> /steegy/vistapool-modbusrtu-domot3/flow-log

        fi
fi

############################################
# update Pool Cover  [Also 269] - IDX4005
# get bit number 4 (0x0010)
# 0 = cover open
# 1 = cover closed
############################################


coversv=$(cat /steegy/vistapool-modbusrtu-domot3/poll-part2 | grep  '\[269\]' | sed 's/^.*://')


if [ -z "$coversv" ]
then
        echo "empty var not doing any update"
else

coversv=$((("$coversv" & 0x0010) != 0))
        ##echo "$coversv"


        if [ $coversv = "0" ];then
                curl "http://domoticz.steegy.com/json.htm?type=command&param=udevice&idx=4005&nvalue=0&svalue=Open"
                echo "cover opened" >> /steegy/vistapool-modbusrtu-domot3/flow-log
        elif [ $coversv = "1" ];then
                curl "http://domoticz.steegy.com/json.htm?type=command&param=udevice&idx=4005&nvalue=0&svalue=Closed"
                echo "cover closed" >> /steegy/vistapool-modbusrtu-domot3/flow-log
        fi
fi


In case you want to add additional registers, you can get the register numbers from the sugar valley modbus PDF manual, just remeber to translate HEX to decimal first.
But in my case, these are the most important registers I need, in order to get my winter-anti-freeze protection automation up and running, which is automated through domoticz.

My first attempt was to share the ch341 USB adapter using ser2net, with my domoticz server, but this was unsuccessful, so I decided to have the Pi run the mbpoll script (or optinally, you can call the mbpoll export though SSH)

FYI, to explain the “-z $flowsv” routine:
I have about a 1/100 chance that a modbus read fails, in case it does, and my variables are empty, I want to prevent the script to update my domoticz sensors, and wait untill the next successful run to update the sensor.

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@steegy Thank you very much for your detailed explanation. This helps me a lot to get into the topic MODBUS. And I hope for many others as well for all that effort you have put in writing this.

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In case the new API access gets delayed or blocked, does anybody know if the same modbus approach can be done by using a UART to WiFi module like this one? The same module is used by the Visonic Alarm component in HA and works great. Any help reading values just for temp, pH, Rx and filtration on/off? Thanks.

I’m trying to access by Modbus with a HF5111B module. Can someone share a working config in HA and the correct settings in the module? I keep getting

Pymodbus: Modbus Error: [Input/Output] Modbus Error: [Invalid Message] No response received, expected at least 8 bytes (0 received)

Is there something that needs to be activated in the Hydrolife unit for the EXTERN modbus connector to work? Thanks.

I found a solution with a ESP8266 and Tasmota firmware, works super. And cheap… :slight_smile:

https://tasmota.github.io/docs/NeoPool/