What am i doing wrong ? telegram bot with groups

im trying to have groups to send notifications to
i have one working bot, works great sending and receiving from my telegram

ive created a couple of groups, added @getidsbot to the groups, got the id: which starts with a -,
i then added it to the allowed chat ids

telegram_bot:
  - platform: polling
    api_key: XXXXXXXXXXXXX
    allowed_chat_ids:
      - -8141XXXXX
      - -6594XXXXX
      - 97161XXXX
      - 47347XXXX

then proceeded to make the notify services

notify:
  - platform: telegram
    name: Rons TG
    chat_id: 47347XXXX
  - platform: telegram
    name: Rons TG New
    chat_id: -8141XXXXX
  - platform: telegram
    name: Rons TG Snapshots
    chat_id: -6594XXXXX
  - platform: telegram
    name: Jane TG
    chat_id: 97161XXXX

saved, restarted, then i go to dev tools, services
testing with this

service: notify.rons_tg_new
data:
  title: test
  message: test

not getting any message, however using the old bot :

service: notify.rons_tg
data:
  title: test
  message: test

works just fine the message goes through but of course not to the group since its my own chat id that linked to it.

whats the issue here ? seems so straightforward

Maybe you can test it online with an another bot.

You can give it a try?