Z2M doesn't work properly with Hue light and Alexa, or generally

No issues here with Z2M either (for many years)

That is very little :thinking: (okay, i have more devices, 26 routers and about 10 end devices).
And yes,15 of them are hue’s

Virtualbox itself has never been very stable (for me) compared to VMWare Workstation (which if free for personal use nowadays) A bit of a steep learning curve, but worth it!

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Virtualbox wasn’t my first choice but has been fine. KVM just refused to boot using the official instructions and Cockpit.

It’s a small flat, literally all apart from the door are line of sight to the coordinator, let alone router (Hue). It did work just fine with ZHA so surprised Z2M is not working at least that level.

Do you have a Hue Bridge? I don’t have a Hue bridge, as it’s a BT bulb, didn’t see the point of buying an expensive hub just for one bulb!

TBH the Hue is so much faff - it’s always been fiddly to pair etc - I am tempted to replace it with the next 1600 lumen bayonet Smart bulb I find. Rare but I think Philips Wiz make one.

EDIT - they don’t, E27 only, sigh, But LePro does? Not sure it’s any good…

Never had a bridge…i use a dresen conbee usb stick (on 1 mtr extension)

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Yeah I use the Sonoff Dongle, I don’t think that the problem, since it worked fine with ZHA, more of an Z2M issue I am guessing?

I have had the Hue randomly stop responding to Alexa before I was using HA, so even though it cost me £50 I am not happy with it. My Wiz and Tapo lights - all work fine. No issues. So could be the light - but again, didn’t have this issue of HA thinking the light was on when it’s off with ZHA.

It’s sadly rare to get a BC connect 1600lm light though. They are all 1000lm at best bar this LePro one.

While I don’t think your experience with Z2M is typical, I agree with Taras that you should stick with what works for you. From this point, you should decide how to best spend your own time: figuring out why Z2M isn’t working for you or switching back to ZHA.

It is a little trickier since it’s not a native part of ZHA, but you can change the reporting intervals with ZHA.

You can use ZHA Toolkit.

Or you can use the Manage Zigbee device interface on the device page.
ZHA doesn’t expose all of the same features in a device as Z2M, but most, if not all, of them are accessible through Manage Zigbee device.

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Ooh thanks for that! I didn’t know there was a way of doing that with ZHA.

And agreed, I have gotten to this point where Z2M feels like a sunk cost fallacy and I probably have to accept I need to re-add everything and change all the sensors, dashboard and automations again!

Maybe they will pick up where they left off? (not hopeful)

Switched it all back, had to re-pair a few things, some things were seen automatically - forgot to delete the MQTT bridge, when I did that main light had it’s proper name, and yes after a restart, it doesn’t matter how I turn the Hue on or off, it just tracks it.

And the front door just works immediately, no delay - and the other stuff is working as expected. Smooth transition, ZHA saw the devices bar two, and putting them into pairing mode immediately fixed that.

I know the received wisdom is Z2M is ‘better’ but this is the second time I’ve tried Z2M and failed, so it’s not true that it works for everyone.

Your statement of the title of this thread, is also a blanket statement, and not true either.

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Yep, I use everything listed here with Z2M. All works great.

I am happy for you both, but saying ‘it isn’t true’ when my experience is the direct opposite is a very weird take and not logical? Obviously it ISN’T true it works for everyone if it doesn’t work for me? Unless I am not part of everyone?

Good way to make me feel welcome here I guess. ‘Hey You Over There! You don’t count…’

Really feel Z2M is a bit of a cult at this point? You ‘can’t criticse it’ when it doesn’t work…not saying ZHA is amazing, but it works with my Philips Hue Colour light, which isn’t some minor Chinese piece of junk.

Z2M just refuses to switch it on and off. Tried to seriously attempt do this twice, full switch over to Z2M. Followed all the guides out there. Always the same issue.

So yes, Z2M doesn’t work for everyone, and doesn’t work as advertised. Shame cos I think my other devices would prefer Z2M, but that one - £60!!! worth of bulb - is a dealbreaker.

End of.

And really telling that no-one actually countered with a real solution to fix it?

I am happy to be proved wrong, why I threw down this gauntlet cos I’ve found here if you ask meekly and politely you get ignored or TL;DR responses trying to pick holes rather than be helpful.

I was hoping some Z2M expert would come to my aid. But no, it’s all ‘you’re wrong’. Hmm. This isn’t disproving my point?

Here’s one possible reason your topic has not attracted an offer to debug the problem. Having helped thousands of people over the past 8 years, I feel it applies to all subjects, not just Zigbee2MQTT.

Free time is valuable and volunteers choose where to spend it productively. If a topic’s author appears to be dismissive, disparaging, and/or confrontational, it repels, not attracts, the investment of one’s time.

In any case, I wish you luck and hope the switch back to ZHA is successful.

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What @123 said.

Z2M is pretty much the industry standard now for opensource Zigbee stack. Several paid and opensource home automation platforms have standardized on it. It supports the largest amount of devices in the industry.

I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you sincerely want help… but you need to go back and read your posts here objectively. Your communication style is one of being combative.
Look at the title of this thread.
You use phrases like “threw down this gauntlet cos I’ve found here if you ask meekly and politely you get ignored” and “Please go away.”
Troubleshooting someone else’s setup without having access to it is a very difficult job, hence people are going to ask lots of questions of you, and yes, try to poke holes at it when the information given seems inconsistent.
If ZHA works for you then great! Stick with what works, not really sure why you keep poking the bear here… do really want to changeover to Z2M or is it something else??

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The only use of the word “everyone” in this thread is by you. I can’t see a single statement from anyone claiming “Z2M works for everyone” besides you saying the statement is false.

Like several people have said in this thread, just switch back to ZHA that is working good for you?

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Well the reason you’re getting these types of replies is your title and stance that it must be Z2m. There are many people who have this configuration (myself included) working. In general, when you post something that’s wrong in the eyes of many, many will reply telling you that you’re wrong. It’s not isolated to this forum, but the internet as a whole. With that being said, I can just close this topic and un-list it because it’s just stupid bickering at this point from all parties involved.