this has already been acknowledged by the dev: 2022.12: It does matter! - #94 by piitaya
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Probably because ignoring becomes a trend?
This is an open source project.
Dev people do it for free.
Community moderators do it for free.
People like you, like me who is sharing their solutions - do it for free.
Users do not like situations when smth is changed - and their complains are ignored.
Users do not like situations when they spent plenty of time to create a perfect HA setup - and suddenly it becomes broken due to some sudden breaking changes.
more-info with statistics - a good example.
Anything was made to restore the good old way? No.
So this is a trend - and it is frustrating. No wonder when people - being ignored - get irritated and express themselves emotionally.
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Iām not trying to be offensive when I say this but you have a tendency to fly off the rails when you disagree with anything instead of replying with constructive feedback. Sorry, but volunteers donāt have to listen to feedback if they donāt like the way itās presented to them.
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Just your personal impression, like someone may find you not good enough in some cases.
But - finally there is a technical side which is more important than our feelings.
tbh: I donāt care much about the color changes in this releaseā¦ at some places, I really like the idea ā¦ but on othersā¦ I donāt really know, if it is working as intendedā¦ 
Hereās a small example of my thermostats (Homematic IP device, integrated per Homematic (IP) local [custom component]ā¦
All thermostats listed in an entity-list:
thereās no difference in the color - although, they have different states.
When I open the āmore infoā dialog, there are different Icon Colorsā¦
But, the color depends on the āprofileā - not on the state:
Idle (Auto) && Heating (Auto)
While the thermostats in profile (Heat) have another color - independend if they are heating or Idle:
So, I would recommend, the colors should be set by the state (Heating, Idle, etc) - and not by the selected profile.
At least, that would be more intuitiveā¦
And: Why are the colors not reflected in the entities card, like it is the case for other entities?
(And no, I am not aware that I have used battery cards in this example)
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it seems like that might be due to something overriding the colors? My thermostat always shows as red when set to heat mode in all the cards (like yours does in more-info). I agree, I used to use the color as an indication of if it is currently heating which is no longer possible
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GUI changes always seem to cause a lot of anguish and understandably so as itās the part that we all interact with on daily basis. This is just another repeat of what happened when the settings got moved around. Personally I feel there needs to be a lot more research before pushing these changes out to users.
Anyway, trying to be constructive and to find some sort of solution for the users itās upset. Is there any way that we could have a template theme provided that we can load in configuratoin.yaml that restores the previous colour palette and then people can make modifications from there to suit themselves? This would save everyone reinventing the wheel to try and do the same thing.
Just my two thoughts.
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Regarding the changed colors:
Again, I am just a user and only one personal opinion. But it feels like strange things like this are done (creating work for people who style their dashboards) but all the real problems are ignored.
More or less all (core) cards behave differently and often inconsistenly. Each has bugs that are never fixed and none are in any way streamlined.
The stack cards being a prime example where it is an absolute pain for a newbie to figure out how to style them because they have nothing in common with the other cards.
Maybe it would be better to gather the problems with the core cards ans fix those. Then add theming ability via UI. Right now it is a huge guessing game and cumbersome search using dev tools in browsers to figure out how to bend the cards without breaking them.
The basics of dashboards were a problem, not the colors 
The entire frontend now seems to primarily work because of card mods/external cards. Without those no layout or styling would work and many cards would show strange behavior on different devices.
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Is that still applicable after this update, or has the documentation just not been updated to reflect the 2022.12 release?
Iām using like this and it is working fine:
- type: state-icon
entity: lock.vw_passat_door_locked
style:
'--rgb-state-lock-jammed-color': var(--rgb-amber-color)
'--rgb-state-lock-unlocked-color': var(--rgb-red-color)
'--rgb-state-lock-locked-color': var(--state-icon-color)
top: 90%
left: 35%
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That was updated for this release.
Hi All,
Iāve started to create an āold styleā HA Dark theme.
Just create a new theme.yaml and copy this code:
home_assistant_old_style:
primary-background-color: "#111111"
card-background-color: "#1c1c1c"
secondary-background-color: "202020"
primary-text-color: "#e1e1e1"
secondary-text-color: "#9b9b9b"
disabled-text-color: "#6f6f6f"
divider-color: rgba(225, 225, 225, 0.12)
mdc-ripple-color: "AAAAAA"
state-switch-color: "#ffd700"
state-automation-color: "#ffd700"
state-cover-color: "#ffd700"
state-fan-color: "#ffd700"
state-light-color: "#ffd700"
state-binary-sensor-color: "#ffd700"
state-input-boolean-color: "#ffd700"
state-person-home-color: "#008000"
badge-person-not-home-color: "#636B75"
state-person-zone-color: "#800080"
state-climate-heat-color: "#800080"
state-climate-idle-color: "#000000"
app-header-text-color: "#e1e1e1"
app-header-background-color: "#101e24"
Change it theme under your user and enjoy good old HA colors.
Just started to work on it, so it will take a few hours.
But I guess youāve got the idea.
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The problem in my humble opinion:
during the āopen smart homeā event (or how this was called) - Paulus already showed some sketches, in which direction the UI will change.
at that moment, I just thought: "Oh please - not yet another āalexa / smart home appā copy.
The problem:
Nearly all of them are using similar themes.
And - HomeAssistant is trying to follow a trend where āDesignā overcomes functionallity.
And that is something, I really would question hereā¦
The Team should provide the technical platform - but from UI, I would really love if the user could decide how the UI should look like.
I donāt want to loose options I do have now - just to get another app thatās looking like the Amazon Alexa App, or the Hue Appā¦
I really love the opportunity, to get Information out from the Dashboard - and not only have controlls.
Thatās one BIG advantage of HomeAssistant compared to other smarthome apps.
And Beleive me:
If HA will go in this direction - and Matter support will be rolled out on other platforms as wellā¦ thereās probably no need for having HomeAssistant, if I CAN do the same (with the same UI) within the other apps as wellā¦
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Yes, and this is NOT supported anymore:
style:
'--rgb-state-lock-locked-color': rgb(255,0,0)
top: 90%
left: 80%
or
style:
'--rgb-state-lock-locked-color': red
top: 90%
left: 80%
Hi, please have a look here:
Iāve already created an old (pre-2022.11) themeā¦ so maybe, we can merge both things together?
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Heās referring to the use of rgb(..)
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No, check this var:
Not a big issue if compared to other events in the world.
Just users need to rewrite their themes, their card-mod code, other code like ābutton-card-basedā, their templates for colors etc.
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