Seems to be a common issue. Speculation is that having all users upload at the same time might not be the best idea
However I find it more irritating that it will only try again on the next scheduled update (which could be a week away). In my opinion it should try continuously with some (of course randomized) backoff time.
It should be noted that the mobile app does not present the “set up backups” dialog nor give you the encrypted backup dialog when making a backup from the button in the lower right.
instead it brings you directly to all backups on your system and still presents the “password” backup dialog and not the new dialog. I imagine this is coming in an updating version of the mobile app.
edit: I stand corrected, for any that are also seeing this. Force close the app and reload it, even though I left the page and it reloaded everything it didn’t pull the new dialogs until I forced closed.
I agree with you 100%. I am an Architect and if I never hear DevOps, Agile, MVP, and such again I will be happy. What people don’t admit is all of these things are admissions that we do not know what we are doing. Let’s try something and see if it works. I am OK with Agile/MVP for UI. But core functionality has to be right and complete. If I design an MVP database and let developers go at it, I can never change it again. This is because even a simple data structure change will require extensive regression testing and probably code changes.
I will get off my soapbox now. I really do appreciate all that the Nabu Casa team and volunteers do. If I ever get some free time, I will pitch in to help.
I have no dog in this fight because I’m way back on 2024.10 and never used the backup feature. However, I do want to point out the irony of the recent Community Survey, followed up by this backup situation which partially stems from not listening to the community
Still using my old backup strategy with services calls instead of the new automatic backup until the ssl and local addon folders get included in the backup too.
Please consider making encryption as an option that can be turned off…
Really this shouldnt be pushed like this…
I always copied tar.gz files to my windows/desktop, extract (!!) it, to have also local backups on my pc, and for developing etc etc. compare with winmerge etc…
Also dont get it why needs to be ecrypted, ok maybe until uploading to cloud or whatever… but local backups, come on…
Nice! I haven’t tried it (since I reverted back to 2024), but does this action prompt for a Name, or is it set to random by HA (like the actual disk file names)?
It does not prompt, set a static name that is used in the db for the UI. The file does actually have the system generated file of 8 characters plus the .tar extension
Edited for more clarity.
OMG, Agile… I began programming on the Apple II doing “Poke” commands to alter RAM one byte at a time, and everything since from Asm, to C, to C++, even Ada. We sat down and thought about what we wanted/needed to do and actually designed SW, often creating an entire document describing it in detail. When I first ran into Agile I recognized that the paradigm had drastically changed from thoughtful, purposeful SW design and development to lazy-trial-and-error-see-what-sticks-let’s-get-this-out-the-door-and-let-the-user-as-tester-tell-us-what’s-broken approach. I’m truly glad I no longer have to code for a living, with the scores of “hey-use-my-new-language” syntax options that add zero value and the multitude of frameworks in use today. I’d pull my remaining hair out. It’s a wonder anybody can get a job anymore! But I digress.
If this is the case, then clearly not much critical thought went into this whole new backup thingy. Solution: increase Nabu Casa dues to $300/mo to pay for more Amazon Cloud bandwidth!
There was a survey? Not listening is not a new fault, IMO. I backed away from active involvement in the HA community & beta testing some time ago for that reason, and hoped it would improve over time. Although there have been lots of not-so-obvious system-level improvements over the years (yay!), I’ve seen little in the way of new features added that benefit my particular needs or set up, so it has remained basically unchanged for 2 years. Many new features seemed unnecessary and very specialized to me, or even a step backwards in a few cases. I still support Nabu Casa (for now) but am just an end user at this point. But I still do all of my automations in YAML!
OK, I take back what I said. This is super disappointment to read. You can’t even perform TLS communication in a normal way.
Contrary, if you have HA and HA does communicate with server to update itself, it does use the AES for communication with servers, but with software. Point being, if everything is on software AES today, adding a slightly higher load of AES once a day won’t be a critical problem.
The bigger problem is obviously that encrypted backups are sometimes useless and stupid.