2025.1: Backing Up into 2025!

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You might be right. If so, my apologies @Ildar_Gabdullin, I then misunderstood your post.

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I suggest to start using Govee2Mqtt add-on. It has more features and doesnā€™t break with HA updates.

What kind of mushrooms they were??
OK, never mind)

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A similar thing was said with the release of the new badges. Thereā€™s even a dedicated topic. Yet, not a single update has been made since. Excuse me for being sceptic in this case.

This is a common misconception: MVPs are useful when uncertainty is high. In other words, when concepts are new or unfamiliar, it makes sense to test with real user feedback. Backup strategies donā€™t fall into this category.

A valid MVP wouldā€™ve been where no backup functionality existed in HA.

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Meanwhile @akomelj and @Ildar_Gabdullin found the main source for the trouble 2025.1 caused for card_mod and its customizations on hui-generic-entity-row, whihc apparently is caused by Lint fixes in Fix ALL the eslint warnings (#23165) Ā· home-assistant/frontend@7a12fd2 Ā· GitHub

this is great news, and hopefully an official update to card_mod can be seen soon. for the time being, follow @Ildar_Gabdullin s suggestion and do this

it brought back all mods I could find on entities, and then someā€¦

just copy the original to another www folder, and change the path in the config:

frontend:
  extra_module_url:
# https://github.com/thomasloven/lovelace-card-mod?tab=readme-ov-file#performance-improvements
    - /local/resources/card-mod/card-mod.js
#     - /hacsfiles/lovelace-card-mod/card-mod.js

thanks for the temporary fix!!

Ill crosspost this in the card-mod thread because off the fundamental importance there too.

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Now that was funny, thanks for the laugh.

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(also crossposting)
All credits to @akomelj in fact! He has found a particular issue.
Could be not the only one, I am still checking other changes.

Question on the new backup functionality: How does this affect backups currently being orchestrated by third-party add-ons, e.g. Home Assistant Google Drive Backup ?

Will this immediately start trying to backup the new format, encrypted files, or will it continue as-is until I choose when (or if) migrate to the new, core backup service?

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It will continue as-is

Previously when we updated add-ons there was a toggle to create a backup. Thatā€™s now gone and it doesnā€™t backup the add-on when you update.

I donā€™t see this as progress. Is there some setting I have missed?

Found out this morning that if you update from the add-on page rather than the repairs page the option to backup is still there. This is probably a frontend bug that will likely be fixed, but for now it works.

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  1. Once a month roughly
  2. Reverting pieces I broke and realized days later. Might be just a few lines in YAML, but this would be impossible with encryption on.
  3. OFTEN! Once a month! I use backups from my production system and use them on a dedicated testing landscape (different hardware) for testing the Betas and include all my latest changes and historical data.
    As far as I understand this will also be impossible now.
    3.1 In 6 years of HA I needed 3 full backup restores (hardware changes, migration from supervised to HAOS)

Hope to see a toggle for the encryption in one of the next releasesā€¦

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If I understood correctly this is intendet, so the the toggle on the add-ons page will likely be fixed away instead on the repairs page restored.
I wouldnā€™t mind to be wrong here, as I see the option to back up an add-on just before updating is valuable and safed me a few times over the years when an add-on-update didnā€™t went as expected.

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What are you asking? How to open a backup file?
You need to copy the .tar file into a Linux environment. The Microsoft Windows Subsystem for Linux works if you donā€™t have a Linux PC.

Run

tar -xf

on the tar file, this will expand the tar file into a dozen or more other tar files. You will have to hunt through them to find whatever file you are looking for.

I too am against ā€œforced encryptionā€
Even for cloud like Google Drive ā€“ I mean I have a lot more personal stuff on Google Cloud than just HA backups so I protect my access to Google Drive.

I am all for default to encryption to protect those who donā€™t know better but HA should not become the ā€œNanny Stateā€ to more sophisticated (or non-risk averse) users.

BTW, I feel the same way about eliminating YAML and CLI configuration options.
Again, I am all for making it easier for newbies by adding GUI options but why remove power and functionality from power users.

The dictum should be:

  1. Make it easy for newbies
  2. Protect the unwary
  3. Give (and preserver) maximum power and flexibility to those who know what they are doing and then Cavet Emptor to them ā€“ i.e., if you abuse the power granted to you and screw up you have no one to blame but yourself.

After all, if I wanted a closed, sheltered, mother-knows-best world, I would just become an Apple fan boy :slight_smile:

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Love the Zoom feature on entity dataā€¦ allowing you to zoom in as much as you wantā€¦
But it seems like it canā€™t zoom out beyond the default amount ā€“ at least on my laptop using the trackpad to pinch zoom in and out.

It would be good to be able to ZOOM OUT all the way to the limits of the data just like one can zoom in as much as you want

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Shouldnā€™t be mandatory anywhere. Advised yes. But not mandatory. We are all presumably adults capable of taking our own risks.

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Agree with all the requests for unencrypted backups especially for local. Personally I am not going to use the backup features, because I run haos on Proxmox VM and just do scheduled VM backups. Proxmox backup server keeps a copy on another server, so it is easy to restore if my server dies.
I did this with Homeseer as well and canā€™t count the number of times I had to restore from a VM backup. I just have a few months so far with Home Assistant, but havenā€™t needed a restore yet :slight_smile:

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FYI, If you backup via command line it is not encrypted.