2025.1: Backing Up into 2025!

Just ran it now and it ran correctly. The supervisor log shows:

2025-01-08 04:47:49.628 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.module] Can't backup Home Assistant Core config folder: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/data/homeassistant/nest/event_media/4fe7f1084398ae1e51fc3d8c6fb3b92f/1736294916-camera_motion.jpg'

Does this mean if a file is not found the backup fails?

Looks like the real error showed up in the host log

2025-01-08 04:39:54.178 homeassistant dockerd[608]: time="2025-01-08T04:39:54.178255874Z" level=error msg="[resolver] failed to query external DNS server" client-addr="udp:172.30.33.2:38144" dns-server="udp:172.30.32.3:53" error="read udp 172.30.33.2:38144->172.30.32.3:53: i/o timeout" question=";www.duckdns.org.\tIN\t A"

Why wouldn’t it retry?

By the way, I run Acronis to back up all of my folders, custom settings configs, etc. Much, Much easier to restore when I make a mistake or the system doesn’t like a custom update.

This is fuss about nothing.
Does haos use encryped file system? I don’t think so. There are a zillion ways how to retrieve data from linux fs. So where is the problem?

Dev will fix things and there you go.

I think all should relax a bit, grab a beer, smoke a pot, or whatever.

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I think people need to be patient for this - but know that we are very aware of the need for more details.

Paulus stated we are evaluating feedback and that it will take us a while to push updates out. We cannot do that less than 24 hours after he posted. :slight_smile:

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Is there anyway to get better documentation on the backup. For example, last night the Auto backup failed apparently do to a connection issue ( don’t understand why as it is stored locally) . How do I set retry on failure? I have used many commercials backup programs and they all had this.

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I didn’t ask for my backups to be encrypted, nor do I want them stored in the cloud. Why do you guys keep implementing stuff in a vacuum? We need an unencrypted option immediately.

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Great call out, I don’t think we have much on this. I’ll bring it up to people and see if we can get better details for that. :slight_smile:

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It is 5 days since she posted.

So that means to me, nothing will happen to restore UI functionality quickly but we still want you to post you’re concerns.
In your earlier post you said that you were weary of the “bombardment”. Seems a bit hypocritical?

You managed to remove the add-ons backup from the UI whilst everybody was off site at CES. So again I find that a bit hard to swallow.
Lack of communication and transparency has created your problem. That is the most important issue to adress here!

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Yeah, she isn’t required to babysit forums over the weekend and she is in Las Vegas with the rest of the crew right now for CES.

Please, be patient.

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Do you think 750 comments is not being bombarded?

We have 50 employees at Nabu Casa - some of us are working and doing things as planned, several key people are currently in Las Vegas at an event planned long before this release. Not everyone is required to sit on the forums and answer people. And I will not force my colleagues to read through angry messages when I can be their shield.

I hear that poor communication is the problem, and we have recognized that, but it is unreasonable to continue to ask for responses every day. I will reiterate - even though you don’t see us typing, we are watching.

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I have to agree with @MissyQ so she knows she is not standing alone in this.
I followed this thread a bit and to me it feels like a “total shit storm”(sorry for the used words) because some people would like to see a feature a bit different.

And no of the devs has actually said actually said not listening to the request. If if read the official responses, all is under consideration and it will take some time.
and I can understand that,

I think this feature is a great contribution to the project,

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In the UI via Button. They did. They have taken the possibility away. And the backup before updates. They have taken the possibility away.

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Too maybe let cooler heads prevail, I think there are 750 comments because of the vacuum that was left. And social media hates a vacuum. What’s more is there is a large communication breakdown (which you fully acknowledged, I’m merely stating, not poking), to the point where two involved moderators can’t agree on how they interpret the course forward.

I think, and maybe I’m wrong in this assumption, but at this point, no one is asking for the feature to be fixed on 2025.1.2 or whatever. But the reasoning behind the feature? Some clarity on the roadmap of the feature? I think those would go a long way to calming the bombardment. And to the best of my knowledge (happy to be wrong), those have not been provided. Just my two cents.

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No, no, that’s a normal shit storm. :rofl:

My backups solution was - manual creation of unencrypted backups from the Backups Settings UI.
Now this option is gone, not working anymore.

And I don’t want to look for workarounds of the previously working solution.

I hope to see Option to create unencrypted backups in the Backups Settings UI in next release.

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The 750 comments “bombardment” is only partially due to badly designed and communication change of existing functionality, it’s due to the initial follow-up. Patronizing and condescending response lecturing people “that’s now MVP works” (no it doesn’t) added the major fuel to the fire. “My way or highway” is not something you should ever response with, no matter how right you believe you are

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I absolutely do not disagree with you. There were missteps that happened with the communication around this release - we need to fix those, but just as with fixing code making sure the communication lands correctly takes time. Believe me when I say this thread has been the focus for most of us all week.

However, there’s also a problem in that not everyone is reading all of the posts, or they are reading too much into one thing. It’s easy to reply to someone 100 comments ago and not read anything else below it.

There are several factors at play here, but seriously - patience is needed. Even when we have taken the time to post something long, it’s not good enough - faster responses will (and already did) make things worse.


*Just to be illustrative*: I was off for 2 weeks, came back to work with the worst head cold I've ever had and a 500 post release thread of very upset people. It's been a hell of a week.
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Hey, I didn’t say you weren’t being “bombarded”. I said your post was asking for more.

I am merely highlighting some not joined up responses here. And if you construed my comment as being angry then I apologise. (Correct spelling BTW :slight_smile: )
I am glad everybody is listening and we are getting some communication.

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Super appreciate the clarification. :pray: I did misread your tone, thank you for clarifying.

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Thank you for the response. I hope people read it and take to heart that the people on the other end of the computer screens are aware of the thread and the focus given, and that details will be forthcoming

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