Thanks to everyone for your patience and understanding - locking down this thread was a last resort in order to maintain order, but always intended to be temporary this round. Since yesterday was a US holiday, I had to spend some time talking with everyone to ensure I knew where we stood after my last update. I’ll jump into the details for my update, though, with less fluff ahead of it to get to the point for y’all.
A big caveat to this post is that I have no specific timelines yet
We will also introduce an action to allow for any custom schedule and conditional in automations.
Works in progress:
We will implement turning off encryption with a per location basis.
Except for Home Assistant Cloud - we will require it.
We want to improve filenames to be more easily read and sensible.
As of 2025.1.3 - SSL information missing in backups has been fixed.
Lastly, we are approaching the next release - for my side of things this means that this thread will no longer be the appropriate place to leave feedback for this feature. I don’t want to lose y’all’s valuable feedback, so next Wednesday when Beta is live I will be locking down this thread and creating a Beta-specific backup feature thread to continue this conversation. When the next release goes live, we will be able to move the convo further into that blog post’s thread. I will point to those threads in the previous thread’s last comment when this happens - I won’t leave y’all digging for this because I want to have an active convo here but still need to maintain the organization of this forum.
That laid out now, this thread is reopened for discussion. A couple reminders: there is no need to discuss moderator actions on this thread - those are best left to DMs with the moderator and staff teams (review the Code of Conduct if you haven’t while you’re here); let’s keep the topic at the current statuses I mention in this post - I have no information on anything else at this time. Any replies moving forward not following these reminders will be removed without warning - this is the warning.
From my perspective this update is validating of my concerns and demonstrates the team’s willingness to listen to end users.
I’ll also add that sometimes feedback in writing is received differently than the authors intentions. It’s easy for hot button issues to escalate quickly and unintentionally, simply because this medium isn’t the most conducive for these types of debates/conversations.
We often times only hear about the negative aspects of a new implementation because the positive parts require no input.
This is a positive direction for this specific feature and the efforts of the development team are most certainly appreciated. Home assistant takes the cake when it comes to home automation, hands down. It takes a solid team to bring a platform to this point.
I look forward to additional details when they become available.
Thanks for more or less confirming what I had suspected and stated in either this thread or one of the other ones that this release spawned on the topic of Backups. I’m old enough that I know to expect missing pieces of a project to show up in the next patch, even if they should have been included in the current build.
Actually Home Assistant is the first home automation program that I use that I did not develop myself.
I got involved in home automation in the late 70’s (I bought some BSR-X10 switches, and programmed my Heathkit H8 to control them), after that, I have been migrating and re-writing the software as I needed it.
A few years ago, I read about HA and decided to try it.
So, I’m bringing my 40 something years of experience and making some suggestions about something that I actually have some experience with.
So in other words, to use the new “1 click easy backup”, you have to install KeyPass to back up your passwords, then you have to install Syncthing to back up the KeyPass database, and hope that a few years from now when you might need that password, you are still using KeyPass, and that its database still contain the password that you saved a few years ago, and had never used.
How about being able to save a local backup of HA without encryption, much easier .
By the way, I do use Syncthing to back up my phone, and it works, but it was not the easiest thing to install or to set up, and I don’t recommend it for the non-technical HA user.
