is this step still necessary if you restore from a full backup and then only upgrade to 16.0.2?
thanks.
PS: good seeing you here.
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Once you restore your backup - just give it a check before you attempt to start your 15.x (or pre 16) build If it has stuff in it that’s what hoses you.
(nice seeing you to, hope you’re well, B)
I had to revert to a full system backup from 2 weeks ago. Node-red isn’t starting currently, but at least I can see a config file in the system with my flows in there. Lost two weeks of data and changes though
This is … messy to be gentle about it 
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Yeah I was lulled into a false sense of security with the relatively straightforward updates for so long. I punched update while shaving this morning and now have to tend to the cut I gave myself when I saw about 30 VERY complex flows blown away.
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now i can’t find the /addon_configs/ folder - is that the full path?
also, on 2023.9.3 now - any way to force an update check thru UI?
(will drop you a note once i get my full system up 
)
If you have the samba addon it exposes the folder as a share I’ll have to look up where it actually is in the file system.
Still will not start all the logs say is:
Welcome to Node-RED
15 Nov 09:15:23 - [info] Node-RED version: v3.1.0
15 Nov 09:15:23 - [info] Node.js version: v18.18.2
15 Nov 09:15:23 - [info] Linux 6.1.59 x64 LE
15 Nov 09:15:23 - [info] Loading palette nodes
15 Nov 09:15:24 - [info] Dashboard version 3.6.1 started at /endpoint/ui
15 Nov 09:15:24 - [info] Settings file : /etc/node-red/config.js
15 Nov 09:15:24 - [info] Context store : ‘default’ [module=memory]
15 Nov 09:15:24 - [info] User directory : /config/node-red/
15 Nov 09:15:24 - [warn] Projects disabled : editorTheme.projects.enabled=false
15 Nov 09:15:24 - [info] Flows file : /config/node-red/flows.json
15 Nov 09:15:24 - [info] Server now running at http://127.0.0.1:46836/
15 Nov 09:15:24 - [info] Starting flows
15 Nov 09:15:25 - [info] Started flows
15 Nov 09:15:25 - [info] [server:Home Assistant] Connecting to http://supervisor/core
15 Nov 09:15:25 - [info] [server:Home Assistant] Connected to http://supervisor/core
[09:15:25] INFO: Starting
Node-Red is at 15.1.1
Node-red folder was copied over from the backup prior to all this mess
Started HA
Node-red still not starting:
Welcome to Node-RED
15 Nov 09:15:23 - [info] Node-RED version: v3.1.0
15 Nov 09:15:23 - [info] Node.js version: v18.18.2
15 Nov 09:15:23 - [info] Linux 6.1.59 x64 LE
15 Nov 09:15:23 - [info] Loading palette nodes
15 Nov 09:15:24 - [info] Dashboard version 3.6.1 started at /endpoint/ui
15 Nov 09:15:24 - [info] Settings file : /etc/node-red/config.js
15 Nov 09:15:24 - [info] Context store : ‘default’ [module=memory]
15 Nov 09:15:24 - [info] User directory : /config/node-red/
15 Nov 09:15:24 - [warn] Projects disabled : editorTheme.projects.enabled=false
15 Nov 09:15:24 - [info] Flows file : /config/node-red/flows.json
15 Nov 09:15:24 - [info] Server now running at http://127.0.0.1:46836/
15 Nov 09:15:24 - [info] Starting flows
15 Nov 09:15:25 - [info] Started flows
15 Nov 09:15:25 - [info] [server:Home Assistant] Connecting to http://supervisor/core
15 Nov 09:15:25 - [info] [server:Home Assistant] Connected to http://supervisor/core
[09:15:25] INFO: Starting NGinx…
15 Nov 09:28:52 - [info] [server:Home Assistant] Connection closed to http://supervisor/core
15 Nov 09:28:52 - [info] [server:Home Assistant] Connecting to http://supervisor/core
15 Nov 09:28:57 - [info] [server:Home Assistant] Connecting to http://supervisor/core
15 Nov 09:29:02 - [info] [server:Home Assistant] Connecting to http://supervisor/core
15 Nov 09:29:07 - [info] [server:Home Assistant] Connecting to http://supervisor/core
15 Nov 09:29:12 - [info] [server:Home Assistant] Connecting to http://supervisor/core
15 Nov 09:29:17 - [info] [server:Home Assistant] Connecting to http://supervisor/core
15 Nov 09:29:22 - [info] [server:Home Assistant] Connecting to http://supervisor/core
15 Nov 09:29:27 - [info] [server:Home Assistant] Connecting to http://supervisor/core
15 Nov 09:29:32 - [info] [server:Home Assistant] Connecting to http://supervisor/core
15 Nov 09:29:37 - [info] [server:Home Assistant] Connecting to http://supervisor/core
15 Nov 09:29:42 - [info] [server:Home Assistant] Connecting to http://supervisor/core
15 Nov 09:29:47 - [info] [server:Home Assistant] Connecting to http://supervisor/core
15 Nov 09:29:47 - [info] [server:Home Assistant] Connected to http://supervisor/core
Showing that there is an update for Node-Red, but have NOT done it, trying to get it to work on 15.1.1.
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its like ChatGPT did the coding on this one! 
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tbh … that all really s*cks! if you say that you have to restore everything “correctly” make me worry once again. damn… so much work invested for nothing now?
my learning from this one: starting backups on my flows every day from now on
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can I somehow use a backed up copy of the flows_cred.json file to restore access to my flows?
or, can I start an new instance of nodered and import my flows from a json file?
it’s weird… i restored 15.1.1 and now i cant even start node-red anymore… 
any ideas?
B - here’s the doc for the new addon_configs folder:
Public Addon Config | Home Assistant Developer Docs (home-assistant.io)
Looks like /addon_configs is only a mapping done completely through Docker.
From there Supervisor is mounting the Addon’s specific files to slug_addonname in that folder. I can only see it through the SMB share.
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I imported my flows from 4 days ago - but they are all giving me a 502 error when anything in the flow executes
same here! But at least I can see my flows again…its something to work off of. I am updating to 16.02 to see if it changes anything
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Leopold - What does your
Log say?
\config\node-red folder look like? (pre 16.x this is where your stuff lives)
\addon_configs\ folder look like?
if it exists - what’s in
\addon_configs\a0d7b954_nodered\ (I believe the slug is the same for everyone, POST 16.0.2 this is where your stuff will live, and it will start being backed up with the addonn. Ironic huh?)
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thanks. ok, since i am on 2023.9.3 that won’t be there for now.
Same here. Managed to get a backup of my node config downloaded, but been trying to get node-red started for the past 45 minutes now.
Doing a full upgrade again, see if that helps
If it doesnt work Jeroen, same stuff as leopold we can help each other get started back up. But if it does - let us know and keep track of your process.
Hello Nathan,
thanks for the help. I’ll have to check it out. Do you know how I can access my folders with HA OS?
Cheers