Automation When State Hasn't Changed?

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Ok so you are at that level… Sigh…

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Don’t be a dick, I’m asking because I’ve had no experience of them before and you said it was the same!

From your response I take it it’s not automatic?

Either way is obviously far easier than your first suggestion :slight_smile:

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I don’t know what you are talking about, but it doesn’t matter.
I will not argue anything with you.

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The input_datetime does add an extra step, but, sadly, it’s the only “everything proof” way I’ve found of setting a time in the future to check for something or do something and not have it erased by restarts, reloads, automations being turned off/on, etc.

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@123 FYI this now works without specifying states. It will work on any state.

- alias: Garage Door Has been closed for 6 hours on a monday
  trigger:
  - platform: state
    entity_id: cover.garage
    for: "06:00:00"
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Even if Home Assistant is restarted during the 6-hour period?

As I understand this new feature is that it doesn’t care if the state is on for 6 hours or off for 6 hours; as long as it stays in the same state for 6 hours, it will trigger.

However, I think it’s still susceptible to being reset when Home Assistant is restarted. Anyway, one more thing to test. :slight_smile:

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That I don’t know. I just know that during the month of WTH someone ninja’d in the ability to use ‘for’ without specifying a state.

EDIT: I Just saw your edit

Yes, same goes for any other entity. Same state for 6 hours == trigger, regardless of state.

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I just tested with an automation that had a “for: minutes: 5” in it and when I restarted HA after two minutes the 5 minutes started after HA restart so that method won’t work.

That said I think the best (most reliable) way is to use an input_datetime as suggested.

you’ll need two automations - one to set the input_datetime for the last time the garage was opened and then the automation for your notification.

input_datetime:
  garage_opened:
    name: Last Time Garage Opened
    has_date: true
    has_time: true

automation:
  - alias: set_garage_opened_time:
    trigger:
      platform: state
      entity_id: cover.your_gd
      to: 'open'
    action:
      service: input_datetime.set_datetime
      data:
        entity_id: input_datetime.garage_opened
        timestamp: "{{ now().timestamp() }}"

then modify the condition to check that now is later than 6 hours past the input_datetime:

condition:
  - condition: template
    value_template: >
      {{ as_timestamp(now()) | int - state_attr('input_datetime.garage_opened', 'timestamp') | int > 21600 }}
  - condition: time
    weekday:
      - mon

I haven’t fully tested it but I think it should work.

The only thing I’m not sure about is the timezone that is used using the timestamp option for now(). I assume it’s your local TZ but if it seems off by an hour or hours (depending on your TZ) you can use the slightly more complex method to be sure:

data:
  entity_id: input_datetime.garage_opened
  datetime: "{{ now().strftime('%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S') }}"
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All timestamps are in unix time. Shouldn’t need any conversion with what you’re doing.

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using automations last_triggered attributes myself to check in conditions, I do agree with @Bobby_Nobble this would be most straightforward and failsafe.

simple create an input_boolean.garage_open have it set by automation on open/close, and use that automation’s last_triggered to check in the condition. Fool and fail/faul proof.

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Yeah, your right. I should have known that. :upside_down_face:

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error, wrong topic. Sorry!