remove teh quotes around your template.
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Now the template is captured, but always seems to say yes.
id: '1664203448089'
alias: Küche Bewegungsmelder
description: ''
trigger:
- platform: state
entity_id:
- light.kuche_decke
- light.kuche_herd_links
- light.kuche_herd_rechts
condition:
- condition: template
value_template: >-
{{ trigger.to_state.context.parent_id !=
states.automation.kuche_bewegung.context.id }}
action:
- service: input_boolean.turn_off
data: {}
target:
entity_id: input_boolean.kuche_bewegungsmelder
mode: single
It’s going to always say yes when the context isn’t coming from an automation.
Context can only distinguish it’s origin if it came from: Automations, A user action in the frontend, and scripts. Everything else (Physical press or from the integration) are seen with no context as they both look the same.
So, this automations condition will only stop when it comes from an automation.
Sorry, I can’t read non-english.
In the third picture you can see that the lamp was switched by automation (Küche Bewegung). So the condition is met.
Sorry, but I can’t confirm anything without seeing it in english. Remember, if another automation triggers the entity in your trigger, it will not continue. That’s the only use case here.
OK, I understand. But I’m still too new to understand the system 
The aim was / is for automation (A) to check whether the lights have been switched by another specific automation (B) and if so, then nothing else does. If not, then keep running and turn on the helper.
Now the answer is always no… because even if the specific automation (B) switches the lights, the automation (A) is continued and the helper is switched on.
Yes, and I gave you that condition above and you said it wasn’t good enough. Also, your automation turns OFF the helper.
And that won’t happen, but I need to see the trace in english to see what’s actually happening. Sorry, I cant read your language. And I can’t copy/paste it to translate it because you took screenshots. My hands are tied, the ball is in your court.
can you post the automation that you’re using as well
sure. that’s the Automation for the Lights triggered by motion-sensor
alias: Küche Bewegung
description: ""
trigger:
- type: motion
platform: device
device_id: c0c19ca9b449a076cab5731ef34bb874
entity_id: binary_sensor.kuche_bewegungssensor
domain: binary_sensor
id: Bewegung
- type: no_motion
platform: device
device_id: c0c19ca9b449a076cab5731ef34bb874
entity_id: binary_sensor.kuche_bewegungssensor
domain: binary_sensor
id: keine Bewegung
condition: []
action:
- if:
- condition: or
conditions:
- condition: trigger
id: Bewegung
alias: Bewegung
- condition: and
conditions:
- condition: trigger
id: Bewegungsmelder (Helfer) An
alias: Bewegungsmelder (Helfer) An
- type: is_motion
condition: device
device_id: c0c19ca9b449a076cab5731ef34bb874
entity_id: binary_sensor.kuche_bewegungssensor
domain: binary_sensor
alias: Bewegungsmelder (Helfer) An und Bewegung erkannt
- condition: trigger
id: Test
alias: Bewegung, oder Bewegungsmelder (Helfer An) und Bewegung erkannt
- condition: state
entity_id: input_boolean.kuche_bewegungsmelder
state: "on"
- condition: numeric_state
entity_id: sensor.kuche_helligkeitssensor
attribute: dark
above: 0
below: 2
alias: Helligkeitssensor - Dark
enabled: true
- condition: trigger
id: Bewegung
then:
- if:
- condition: time
after: "06:30:00"
before: "22:00:00"
alias: 06:30 Uhr - 22:00 Uhr
then:
- type: turn_on
device_id: 208132dfc591f203bbb37fbd13fd0e31
entity_id: light.kuche_decke
domain: light
brightness_pct: 60
alias: Küche Decke Ein - 60%
- type: turn_on
device_id: 9d0754b4a502c636ab2f200fa1e16e03
entity_id: light.kuche_herd_links
domain: light
brightness_pct: 40
enabled: false
- type: turn_on
device_id: 69c3ef03bc456cf3abbcd881ad07bc7d
entity_id: light.kuche_herd_rechts
domain: light
brightness_pct: 40
enabled: false
alias: Tag
- if:
- condition: time
after: "22:00:00"
before: "00:00:00"
alias: 22:00 Uhr - 00:00 Uhr
then:
- type: turn_on
device_id: 208132dfc591f203bbb37fbd13fd0e31
entity_id: light.kuche_decke
domain: light
brightness_pct: 30
alias: Küche Decke Ein - 30%
enabled: true
- type: turn_on
device_id: 9d0754b4a502c636ab2f200fa1e16e03
entity_id: light.kuche_herd_links
domain: light
brightness_pct: 20
enabled: false
- type: turn_on
device_id: 69c3ef03bc456cf3abbcd881ad07bc7d
entity_id: light.kuche_herd_rechts
domain: light
brightness_pct: 20
enabled: false
alias: Spät
- if:
- condition: time
after: "00:00:00"
before: "06:30:00"
alias: 00:00 Uhr - 06:30 Uhr
then:
- type: turn_on
device_id: 208132dfc591f203bbb37fbd13fd0e31
entity_id: light.kuche_decke
domain: light
brightness_pct: 10
alias: Küche Decke Ein - 10%
- type: turn_on
device_id: 9d0754b4a502c636ab2f200fa1e16e03
entity_id: light.kuche_herd_links
domain: light
brightness_pct: 5
enabled: false
- type: turn_on
device_id: 69c3ef03bc456cf3abbcd881ad07bc7d
entity_id: light.kuche_herd_rechts
domain: light
brightness_pct: 5
enabled: false
alias: Nacht
alias: Bewegung
- if:
- condition: trigger
id: keine Bewegung
alias: keine Bewegung
- condition: state
entity_id: input_boolean.kuche_bewegungsmelder
state: "on"
alias: Küche Bewegungsmelder ist An
then:
- device_id: 208132dfc591f203bbb37fbd13fd0e31
domain: light
entity_id: light.kuche_decke
type: brightness_decrease
- device_id: 3cb16ca57fe116ee027a586b44dddc5f
domain: light
entity_id: light.kuche_herd
type: brightness_decrease
- delay:
hours: 0
minutes: 0
seconds: 6
milliseconds: 0
- type: turn_off
device_id: 1bf7fa27672e425f03cd0771702ef3d1
entity_id: light.kuche_licht_schalter_gruppe
domain: light
alias: keine Bewegung
mode: restart
and that’s the atomation, for checking the triggered automation.
alias: Küche Bewegungsmelder
description: ""
trigger:
- platform: state
entity_id:
- light.kuche_decke
- light.kuche_herd_links
- light.kuche_herd_rechts
condition:
- condition: template
value_template: >-
{{ trigger.to_state.context.parent_id
!=states.automation.kuche_bewegung.context.id }}
action:
- service: input_boolean.turn_off
data: {}
target:
entity_id: input_boolean.kuche_bewegungsmelder
mode: single
And the trace is for Küche Bewegungsmelder, correct? Because that’s the automation that will not fire if Küche Bewegung is the triggering automation.
You can try changing the automation to this and then post the results of the Changed Variables tab. Please do not post a screenshot, post the text on the tab.
alias: Küche Bewegungsmelder
description: ""
trigger:
- platform: state
entity_id:
- light.kuche_decke
- light.kuche_herd_links
- light.kuche_herd_rechts
variables:
parent: "{{ trigger.to_state.context.parent_id }}"
other: "{{ states.automation.kuche_bewegung.context.id }}"
condition:
- condition: template
value_template: "{{ parent != other }}"
action:
- service: input_boolean.turn_off
data: {}
target:
entity_id: input_boolean.kuche_bewegungsmelder
mode: single
step config:
platform: state
entity_id:
- light.kuche_decke
- light.kuche_herd_links
- light.kuche_herd_rechtsthis:
changed variables:
entity_id: automation.kuche_bewegungsmelder
state: ‘on’
attributes:
last_triggered: ‘2022-09-28T20:31:10.208230+00:00’
mode: single
current: 0
id: ‘1664203448089’
friendly_name: Küche Bewegungsmelder
last_changed: ‘2022-09-28T18:52:17.125785+00:00’
last_updated: ‘2022-09-28T20:31:10.239324+00:00’
context:
id: 01GE2WQKWQVBH1RQPZ1E21824T
parent_id: 01GE2WQKW28JCXM1ZBA1KJ97R9
user_id: null
trigger:
id: ‘0’
idx: ‘0’
alias: null
platform: state
entity_id: light.kuche_decke
from_state:
entity_id: light.kuche_decke
state: ‘off’
attributes:
min_mireds: 153
max_mireds: 454
supported_color_modes:
- color_temp
is_deconz_group: false
friendly_name: Küche Decke
supported_features: 40
last_changed: ‘2022-09-28T20:31:10.209087+00:00’
last_updated: ‘2022-09-28T20:31:10.209087+00:00’
context:
id: 01GE2WQKW1BX6Y1YZ15KVBT541
parent_id: null
user_id: null
to_state:
entity_id: light.kuche_decke
state: ‘on’
attributes:
min_mireds: 153
max_mireds: 454
supported_color_modes:
- color_temp
color_mode: color_temp
brightness: 76
color_temp: 454
hs_color:
- 29.79
- 84.553
rgb_color:
- 255
- 146
- 39
xy_color:
- 0.579
- 0.388
is_deconz_group: false
friendly_name: Küche Decke
supported_features: 40
last_changed: ‘2022-09-28T20:31:14.868049+00:00’
last_updated: ‘2022-09-28T20:31:14.868049+00:00’
context:
id: 01GE2WQRAHFRP2VAWKMYJHCF59
parent_id: 01GE2WQRADSF1QJ8MX0Y6YJ5M3
user_id: null
for: null
attribute: null
description: state of light.kuche_decke
parent: 01GE2WQRADSF1QJ8MX0Y6YJ5M3
other: 01GE2WQRAHFRP2VAWKMYJHCF59
Step Config
condition: template
value_template: ‘{{ parent != other }}’
Changed Variables
Executed: September 28, 2022 at 10:31:14 PM
Result:
result: true entities: []
Changed Variables
No variables changed
Ok, put this in the Developer Tools → Template tab (Template editor) and tell me what you get:
{% set tar = '01GE2WQRADSF1QJ8MX0Y6YJ5M3' %}
Automation: {{ states.automation | selectattr('context.id', 'eq', tar) | map(attribute='name') | list | first | default }}
Script: {{ states.script | selectattr('context.id', 'eq', tar) | map(attribute='name') | list | first | default }}
Something Else: {{ states| selectattr('context.id', 'eq', tar) | map(attribute='name') | list | first | default }}
Copy/paste the results here.
Automation:
Script:
Something Else:
Ok, I see the problem
The solution reply has been updated.
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That’s it, yeah!
But I was wondering why it still triggered 2-3 seconds later. Then I noticed that I use adaptive lighting. Then I turned it off and it didn’t trigger anymore.
Great, thanks for that.
Can the system also be used for this adaptive lighting? So if the lamps are changed by them, it should not trigger either.
I tested with second condition
{{ trigger.to_state.context.id != states.service.adaptive_lighting_kuche.context.id }}
But it doesn’t work…
do u have an idea/tip for?
I was able to solve it.
Adaptive Lighting only controls the color temperature for me. Therefore, I have set the triggers to Turn On and Change Brightness.
Thanks again for the help, that really helps a lot!
Greetings
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