Deprecating Core and Supervised installation methods, and 32-bit systems

I followed this link to the release notes, and somehow couldn’t find anything on libvirt for Pi. Can you maybe cut-n-paste the bullets in the Release notes you are referring to? Thanks,

Just an FYI, there are actually some solutions for this, including this AddOn.

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Download the arch64 qcow image.
Upack it move it to /var/lib/libvirt/images
Run virtual manager the libvirt gui
Setup a new machine copy settings from the x64 settings and fiddel.
Select the downloaded image as hard disk.
Spin it up

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Not sure how to depreciate software features. :face_with_monocle:
Maybe adding a lot of bugs, so they „loose value“ to the end user?

But to be honest I guess the devs were really talking about deprecating this stuff …

Yeah, I had checked 2 different sources prior to posting, but when checking the 3rd, they include a defination specifically about software so it’s correct. I’ve just never heard the word being used prior until now. TIL something new. :slight_smile:

Sure. In which case don’t run it on an SBC. I was responding to your question as to whether HAOS was lightweight enough to run on SBCs. No one is saying anyone “has” to use an SBC

I’m not entirely sure what your point is here. Before Nabu Casa was set up if you wanted to use Alexa or Google Home you had to roll your own, which you still can of course. When Nabu Casa came along they provided a service to make that easier. An entirely optional service you don’t need to use or pay for if you don’t want to. It costs them money to provide that service, so it’s entirely appropriate that they charge for it.

Full disclosure - I’m an NC subscriber, I do use the Alexa integration (replaced my hand rolled one). I don’t use their remote access though

What additional burden maintaining it running in a container is concerning? You can still run on your Debian hosts with software RAID by installing docker there. I imagine you can backup and restore what you have now though I’ve not had to do that. I went from running the OS as a VM to running the container in kubernetes and it has been extremely reliable. I prefer to manage my own addons instead of letting the OS run them all on one host and there are images for every one of them since the OS already runs them as containers.

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None of the 6 or 7 supervised systems I have running phone home to your analytics servers so you can add a bunch more systems that you’re deprecating.

I like my privacy. One of the reasons I’ve been using home assistant since…

Select what to restore
Home Assistant
Settings and history (0.66.0)

I also never needed backup schedules forced upon me since my NAS has 24TB of space and I run a completely diskless pi4 setup via tftp and NFS.

Can HAOS do that? If so, how? Nothing more annoying then dead SD cards but I bet a dying USB drive would finish a close second.

You also still have 32bit pi builds available for download. I know because that’s the one I found first and was pretty ticked to see armv7 not aarch64 on my pi4.

Please reconsider this decision.

I would happily volunteer to support every supervised install in the world just to keep what I have.

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Did you comment when this idea was first raised here Feedback requested: Deprecating Core, Supervised, i386, armhf & armv7

I can’t see your name there. The decision has been made and you don’t seem to have given feedback. Same applies to a number of other posters in this thread.

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Not 100% sure what you mean, but HAOS does do backups, backup schedules, and manually triggered backups to NAS?

Didn’t see that one tbh, life got in the way I guess…

Isn’t this another thread?

Not posted there not eligible to post here?

:thinking:

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This situation does not please me at all.
Homeassistant supervised installation was a very free and flexible option. We could install it on many different single board computers and test many features. The fact that this installation will no longer be supported is a kind of restriction of people’s freedom, which I think should be against the open source software world. It’s not enough for me that the container installation exists.

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No, but the consultation/feedback phase is over. Views are fine, but if they’d been expressed during the feedback phase, they might have been more effective.

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Not true. The UI interface is available to everyone irrespective of whether you’re signed up to NC cloud. I don’t subscribe yet I still see this:

Also not true. The Recommended Adapters section in the ZHA docs does list the Yellow and ZBT-1 adapters, but it also lists:

  • 2 more EZSP adapters from other manufacturers right on that page.
  • 12 more EZSP on the bellows link right above it.
  • 29 more zStack CC2652/1352 adapters.
  • 1 more deconz adapter.

44 adapters referenced on that section alone which are not sold by NC! That is not to mention loads of other adapters further down that page which are also supported but currently not recommended due to being older hardware revisions.

Dude, if you want to troll, at least get your facts straight. At this point, you’re the one who is making claims which are

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It’s pleasure to meet someone who has actually got one. :grin:

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Hm well, fine…

But then we meet the next problem:
Not sure if you’re allowed to post here if you have one. :face_with_monocle:

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I guess I missed that thread started in 2022.

I guess many other people also missed that request for feedback or you would have received more.

++ Ah well I misread a page that scrolls for days again. Looks to me like you asked once and based on this page many people missed the question.

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