No point in arguing this… and nobody said it is more dangerous, but I do agree with @HeyImAlex that the no-neutral version of hardware is definitely inferior for products in the USA. If that is not the case in Croatia, great!
As for smart bulbs, I took a slightly different approach… I installed 30 to 40 dimmers and used regular dimmable LED bulbs as I want everything to work regardless of whether my home automation is up or not. I use LiFX wifi bulbs in about 20 lights powered by sockets. The sockets are always on but I can turn them off in case wifi goes down and I need to turn off the lights (I originally did this when power outages were causing the lights to turn back on upon recovery… and for some weird reason it was always at 2 or 3am GRRR). The smart bulbs can be controlled easily via 15 echos around the house or using scenes on all the smart dimmers. Obviously, using apps is possible too but I avoid it. In the USA, Inovelli switches allow you to disable the relay inside the switch and you can then control the smart bulbs with that switch without cutting power to the bulb… but you are out of luck if the home automation is down and you did not/could not use direct association.
This is not dependent on the switch, but on the bulb. They can’t work around physics.
Yes. If a no-neutral switch cuts power, it will de-power itself.
They’re inferior over here too. They’re stop gap devices if you can’t pull a neutral (which can be a valid scenario), so you have at least something. I have a couple in places where pulling a N would have been an incredible headache.
I really dont understand where this is going… except us is superior than all others. And it isnt. Its in many cases far infinior than others.
I just said that everything is working fine with smart switches that doesnt have neutral.
As for alexa goes… k bought two of them. One i collecting dust somewhere on the desk and the other… well i dont use it except for some ga announcement.
It was the worst money spent on any smart device.
This is not dependent on the switch, but on the bulb. They can’t work around physics.
No it isnt. I had some sonoff and still have some tuya wifi switches that require capacitor. And have a lot of zigbee switches that dont. You can put any led bulbs on it it will not glov.
Without neutral no power monitoring, may need bypass, only 2 speed settings (for fan), etc. That is all I am talking about… with neutral these Inovelli smart dimmers/switches work at 100% of their capability. Same for most (or all?) the other devices I’ve seen (for US market).
Dude, that’s how electricity works. To power itself, the switch has to send a little power through the bulb. It can’t control how the bulb is going to react to that. If it works for you great, then you have a bulb that cooperates (a lot of newer bulbs probably do these days, but there’s no guarantee). It doesn’t mean it’s still going to work the day you will change the bulb.
Dude you are incredible. I have, i dont know, around 40 or more smart switches in the house. You are convincing me that led will glov and they do not glow.
I replaced led blubs, nothing no gloving. I dont know what i have to say to you.
Newer versions doesnt have that problem. You can put the cheapest led you can find on the market it will not glov.
The only thing here is power monitoring. But there is an integration in ha think power monitor you can use to calculate power usage. If you are interesting how much power does a led bulb use.
I monitor power for the whole house, and specific devices but not lights as the power used by those is trivial compared to HVAC, dryer, oven, etc. I definitely need to “smartify” my power usage as I hover around 25MWh/year Not too eco-friendly.
No it don’t. I bought them from Kazakhstan black market using promo code Borat to get 10% off. They have s very small chinese man living inside operating the switch.
Not too eco-friendly.