Home Assistant Core using an outdated pip version and/or not finding rust

[guidocioni]

Good idea, I’ll look into pyenv to maintain my python installations on Raspbian instead than relying on apt.

[parautenbach (Pieter Rautenbach)]

@guidocioni

Most HA guides advise people to install into a venv because they are targeted towards users that don’t really know how to maintain their own Python installation.

That is absolutely not true and insulting without justification.

@guidocioni

But I do maintain my own installation, and I want to clutter my environment as little as possible.

That is exactly why venvs are strongly recommended.

@guidocioni

I hear your point, just agree to disagree

You’re disagreeing with a whole community. Yet when you need help, you’re not willing to take sound advice.

@guidocioni

Especially since, in this case, the problem arises from the way hass is called from systemd and not really from the fact that hass is installed into a venv.

Using a venv and activating it properly will also fix the path issues.

For other readers, please don’t use and change your system Python. Lightweight info here: Why Not Use System Python? – Real Python.

[Tinkerer (aka DubhAd on GitHub)]

@parautenbach

For other readers, please don’t use and change your system Python. Lightweight info here: Why Not Use System Python? – Real Python .

And pyenv makes it stupidly easy to install Python versions and create as many venvs as you need.

[parautenbach (Pieter Rautenbach)]

@Tinkerer

And pyenv makes it stupidly easy to install Python versions and create as many venvs as you need.

Totally. It’s a real no-brainer.