How to copy ui automations from one installation to another (incl device_id)

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#1

hi there,

Im starting a new home assistant installation because my old installation is becomming too unorganized.

But I dont want to do everything from scratch so of couse I want to copy elements from my old installation to the new one.

THE PROBLEM:
If i copy an automation from my old install to the new one it does not work. If I make an automation in the new installation i get a different device_id for my switch (switch.k_ikea)

automation.yaml for my old install:

- id: '1649230104669'
  alias: 'Box2: toggle k_ikea'
  description: ''
  trigger:
  - platform: state
    entity_id: binary_sensor.esp22_b7_gpio14
    to: 'on'
  condition: []
  action:
  - type: toggle
    device_id: d4fb55321b27895cddd1ba57ee026617
    entity_id: switch.k_ikea
    domain: switch
  mode: single

same automation in the new installation (via ui) gets a different device_id
automation.yaml for new install:

- id: '1649228719070'
  alias: 'Box2: toggle k_ikea'
  description: ''
  trigger:
  - platform: state
    entity_id: binary_sensor.esp22_b7_gpio14
    to: 'on'
  condition: []
  action:
  - type: toggle
    device_id: df0ababed560d611c362eb67795d2d5e
    entity_id: switch.k_ikea
    domain: switch
  mode: single

THE QUESTION:

How to get around this problem with unique device_id’s in different installations of home assistant.

If I can get a list of device_id’s from the old and the new installation I can write som code to change it around (but there must be an easyer solution outthere)

note: I know i dont need the device_id if i use old fashioned yaml for my automations. But apprently this is not the case for using the UI (or maybe im doing something wrong)

br

#2

Actually very simple, you can always rename your device after the auto generate kick in. This way you dont need to replace all the changes on you code.

#3

hi richard,

thanks for your suggestion.

Im not sure i follow you. Im looking for the device_id not the name. The name is the same in both the old and the new installation (it is given by a third party integration)

I cannot find anywhere where I cange change the device_id.

If I could change the device_id for a device It would still be a tedious affire - since i have 70+ devices
br

#4

Agree with tedious process, however in my experiences most of the time HA will generate the same name. Unless you are customize everything. Anyway there are no easy way.

#5

When creating an automation using the Automation Editor, opt for Service Call instead of Device Action. A service call is more portable because it only references the entity’s entity_id and not device_id.

  action:
  - service: switch.toggle
    target:
      entity_id: switch.k_ikea

When creating an automation using a text editor, it’s more natural to use Service Call because it’s shorter and doesn’t require you to find the value of the entity’s device_id.

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#6

Hi 123 Taras,
thanks for your suggestion.

I tried it out and it looks like it is the way to go - even though there will be a lot of ‘redoing of automations in UI’ down the road :smirk:. But if that is the case I will be better prepared for my next migration (which will come)

In this example I use a sensor to turn on a heating switch. Do u have a similar suggestion for this case? As u can see it works fine for the action part. I just need to figure it out for the trigger.

- id: '1649237251559'
  alias: 'Heat on'
  description: ''
  trigger:
  - type: temperature
    platform: device
    device_id: 9d1f50db0b7b72c3004b4a31e59a1d6c
    entity_id: sensor.temperature_158d000424df8a
    domain: sensor
    below: 20
  action:
  - service: switch.turn_on
    data: {}
    target:
      entity_id:
      - switch.v_stue
      - switch.v_kokken
      - switch.v_entre

br

#7

Use a Numeric State Trigger.

    - platform: numeric_state
      entity_id: sensor.temperature_158d000424df8a
      below: 20
#8

so easy - when ur in the know :grinning:

it looks like it is working - thanks for taking your time to help.

br

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#9

You’re welcome!

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#10

it was my intention to asign the solution tag to you, but apprently i cant even pres button without messing it up :wink:

br