Wonder what will happen if I would own a matter device that then is commissioned offline - can it still get updates?
I think it was falsely advertised that matter would mandate this - maybe it also just was before matter was finalized… Some big corps in the CSA probably didn’t want to loose their walled garden so they watered the matter specs to the fullest before finalized…
Clearly I will never own a matter device as the matter specs don’t allow me even a minimum ownership (and obviously no right to repair/change/modify)
Like having a matter smart plug with power metering capabilities that only can be toggled on/off via matter/ha and the power/voltage/… readings only work with the (obviously crap) vendor app?
This was the standard before a newer matter spec was released that actually included power/voltage/etc., still no obligatory updates for manufactures/vendors means your limited device will stay limited forever
Yeah I mean right to repair is pretty bad in general in consumer electronics Matter is not better or different to any other standard (or pretty much all, if not all, commercially available smart home devices).
Do you feel you are better off with Zigbee or Z-Wave devices in that term? Their software stack are traditionally very proprietary, which hinders hack-ability. The Z-Wave stack just started to open up a bit recently (e.g. see the Z-Wave alliance announcement about open source). Matter was open source from the beginning. Do you think Z-Wave would have open sourced their stack if Matter wasn’t there?
Compared to proprietary smart home devices Matter guarantees you at least local. The Matter spec is also owner centric when it comes to authenticating: As a controller you don’t have to be “approved” by the device. However, the device cryptographically authenticates what vendor it has been produced by to the controller. So there is no vendor lock down: You can control it locally, without the vendors approval. You can use the open source SDK and talk to any Matter device. And since the protocol by itself is local only, there is also no propitiatory cloud dependency. This makes Matter devices clearly much better in terms of ownership compared to many of the proprietary solutions.
Well, that was because Matter 1.0/1.1 did not support the power metering feature. Meross and Eve will definitely add the feature to Matter via firmware update, and I expect that most vendors which produce such devices will do that over time.
In the end, this will differentiate good from bad Matter devices: Do they cover the standard well… Over time, I am quite certain that only the good ones will have a chance to survive. The good thing is that since Matter is backed by Apple/Google, there will be many devices. This will give us consumers more choices
It seems you are searching for a new villain in smart home? IMHO, it really isn’t Matter per-se. All the proprietary, cloud based smart home crap out there is way worse. Within Matter, maybe you can be critical of particular implementation, e.g. Google or Apple’s cloud based one.
Do you know if there is a way to have the DCL listing in local in HA ?
This is a major issue in my workflow having to rely on google’s servers and DCL service.
Matter is not better or different to any other standard (or pretty much all, if not all, commercially available smart home devices).
IMHO, it really isn’t Matter per-se. All the proprietary, cloud based smart home crap out there is way worse. Within Matter, maybe you can be critical of particular implementation, e.g. Google or Apple’s cloud based one.