True. When i buy any modules, may be sonoff, shelly… no matter what - first thing i do is replace original FW and flash them with esphome, only then i continue. I like my devices to have one same system, if only possible.
Not to mention that before each buy i check if device has ESPxx inside and if it can be flashed to ESPHome.
If there was a de facto standard for wifi IoT, it would be Tuya
Auch…ive had a couple of Tuya devices, but i wasn’t happy with either of them. One of them ended up with esphome, other one in trash (couldn’t be changed to esphome). So, in my opinion Tuya is way away from “being de facto standard”. If i must choose i’d rather choose Shelly, for that matter.
I agree with Rudd: the purpose of the standard IS to make things work. No one said that “standard” means that it’s the best, it’s just…an agreement, so to say, which causes things to … just work. Everything can be improved, so there’s no thing as “the best” (long term especially).
But, generally it IS the best for that purpose, in our case for HA, since esphome is made by same developer as HA it’s written in a way that integrates into HA like nothing from “outside”.
You don’t understand what a de facto standard is. You can choose what you use, but you cannot chose what the others do, and in the HA scene, there are likely 9 Tuya users for every esphome one.
And you find it totally coherent that 23.1% of HA users would be ESPhome users? I totally don’t
I wonder why that stat is so high, though… Now, I see that “thread” is even higher, at 23.8%, which makes me doubt highly of the representativity of those stats, actually…
Thread seems strange : only 2,3% Open Thread border router, but 23,8% Thread. I wonder if everybody with a Google Home hub, Alexa hub or Apple TV is included in Thread.
It is of cause only people who opted in to analytics.
Guys, those statistics are pretty much wrong. Anyone can decide NOT to share it’s installation config (it’s user selectable), and there are many which do have that setting turned off…
I expected it to be the other way around as HA itself is a DIY solution with a steep learning courve.
Beside you can just buy ready made products running esphome (I have a lots of them, many are also available with crap firmware instead of esphome)
The part for connecting wifi devices to your network is quite standardized in the foss world: esphome, wled, tasmota and others make use of improv
From the statistics it’s visible that more users have esphome devices integrated in HA then esphome add-on installs. So HA users make use of (ready made) esphome devices without customizing (DIY) any part of the device but just using them as they are
Prior HA green the installation of HA alone was probably something exlusive to tinkerers or people with engineering degrees…
Anyways nowadays you can get yourself a ready made HA server hub (green) and some ready made esphome devices which should include no tinkering/DIY at all.
I started with zigbee but even it is based on some standard most vendors cook their on soup resulting in missing features or worse. Then I discovered esphome and started with them experience a “standard” I would have expected with zigbee. All devices despite the manufacture have full support for all esphome features - probably close to
In the end I was so astonished how stable and resilient esphome nodes are that I moved completely to it and abandoned all zigbee devices (which never were completely stable in my case)
“Smart bulbs” themselves probably are the wet dreams of the phoebus cartel (the creators of planned obsolesence)
And non powered mains devices usually (talking replaceable batteries here) the most expensive ($/Wh) and dirtiest (environmental unfriendly) way to power devices. I’m really happy to got rid of all the coin cell powered zigbee devices I used to own
