Yes since yesterday you are able to purchase them at smartblinds.
Fully agree, there is still some work to be done on the thread side. Mostly on the networking part. But they’ve promised this year significant changes will me made to get these hurdles out of world.
I have lots of questions. I’ll limit myself to a few.
Not only am I using the blinds as intended. They are dope. I have many. But I also use the motors for my projector movie screen. Nothing on the marked compares to the functionality it gives me.
However. Is there a way I could get the blinds to not be thought of as a blind “natively”. “close all blinds” will include my projector screen in homekit for example.
I have a workarounds - especially in homeassistant, but a fool-proof solution for guests would be nice.
It might be fine I could change what they think is closed vs. open? (I need to “OPEN” the movie screen, to tuck it away). If I went into the eve settings, and changed the “direction” the blinds think they are placed, would that invert the open vs closed direction?
Finally. HOW… do i get my hands on info (STL’s) on the tubemounting for the motors, so I can adapt them to a larger tube for a better projectorscreen. (I’m using an actual blind). The blackout material is actually okay, but I want to make something with tension tabs.
Spook has an inverse function for an entity.
Do these products work with a generic 433 controller like the rfxtrx ones?
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Hi @jerry_bboy,
I’m looking into motion blinds and for me it is still a bit unclear what is and what is not fully supported.
Could you help by maybe ordering the below integration types by what you’d say is best supported? Am I missing some?
- Eve blinds {matter over thread} Thread Border router {matter over wifi} Home Assistant
- Standard blinds {433mhz} CM-55 {matter over wifi} Home Assistant
- Standard blinds {433mhz} CMD-20 {local api} Home Assistant
- Standard blinds {433mhz} CMD-01 {local api} Home Assistant
- Standard blinds {bluetooth} Home Assistant
I know that points 1 and 2 are mentioned in the article above, but what would you say about the other variants from experience?
Thank you in advance!!
Bluetooth integration is nice because you don’t need a bridge. But it’s not the best solution. Because if someone changes the position you won’t get an update unless you poll more often but this will result in higher battery drainage.
Using a Bluetooth motor combined with a cmd-01 or cm-20 is a really stable solution and based on price with the cmd-01 combined with for instance a cmd-02 you won’t find a lot of products for this price range ,esthetics and functions. For instance hornbach sells them. Don’t know where you live of course.
All Bluetooth motors have Bluetooth and 433mhz.
All eve motors have Bluetooth(for commissioning) thread and 433mhz.
If you need anything else let me know.
Ok, thank you for the elaborate answer!
I’m also based in the Netherlands, so I’ll definitely check out the Hornbach items.
Last question; on the Tweakers forum there are some comments about ‘delayed actions’ after sending a command. I believe this is with the bluetooth integration. What is your experience with this?
Bluetooth is a bit slower, so my recommendation will always be to add the bridge. And with the price that Hornbach sells them it’s not that bad. I understand the ‘hate’ against bridges but it works locally and is way quicker and gives you more features. And if you have Bluetooth motors you can change the speed with that. That feature is missing when you are using the bridge. So you can have a ‘quite’ motor in the morning(but slower) and have normal speed during the day.
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Amazing, I bought an expensive eve motionblind curtain a few months ago, and was so disappointed that all I could do with it was wiggle it a little, will be looking into setting it up properly when I get off work! 
for all DACH based users:
I ordered my motionblinds from window-fashion.de (please remove if not wanted)
They offer a ready-to-use roller with motion blinds thread motor.
Bought a skyconnect ZBT-1 and integrated it as my first matter / thread product. Works like a charm. Battery life after 2 weeks is still 100%, cuirous how it will look in a few month…
I paid about 300 euro for the complete roller. Offers from other shops where about 100 euros above and contained the BT-Motor instead of thread.
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I just got my Top Down Bottom Up (TDBU) blinds but that seems to be a nightmare handling with HomeAssistant (matter). How would you control that? because 1 blinds has 2 motors and it does not reflect status. End/begin position only manually programmable but the manual presumed that you can program it with your phone. Lots of questions but no support channels on the motionblinds.com website.
Unfortunately matter does not support Top down bottom up. So in your case you need to add them both to home assistant. And I recommend to make scenes. Like blinds closed 0/100% a favorite 25/75% a privacy scene 50/100% and so on. Controlling them individually makes things a bit more difficult
Hello,
I have successfully connected my new Motionblinds using the Matter protocol and an Aqara bridge. Since I don’t have a Motionblinds bridge or remote control, and therefore probably can’t use the native app, is there any way to change the motor speed? The “favorite position” option also doesn’t seem to be available.
Thank you,
Martin
I recently integrated the MotionBlinds CM-55 bridge into HA, which controls two honeycomb blinds with four motors (top-down, bottom-up). However, it only detects one battery level, whereas I expected it to show two.
For TDBU I think you should see three cover entities and 2 batteries. I’m not using Matter or the CM-55 though, so maybe they are not fully supported yet, or not in the same way. Do you have two devices, or more? Maybe they are split because Matter does not support multiple covers in the same device?
You’re absolutely right, I added them as Honeycomb blinds, not as TopDownBottomUp blinds. I had to remove and reinstall the Motionblinds integration to remove the incorrect Honeycomb devices and add the correct TopDownBottomUp blinds.
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Hi,
I have two Eve TDBU units connected through Matter over Thread with a Skyconnect and the four motors work. But it was a hassle since the manual states that the end limits can be set through the app but the matter devices only expose the following entities:
- Blinds (up, down, set percentage and stop)
- Firmware
- Identify
- Battery
- Battery (0)
- Voltage
- Voltage (0)
Battery and voltage dont seem to relfect the actual battery status, whereas battery (0) and voltage (0) seem to. Sadly HA picks the first battery entity as a battery indicator in the devices list, which shows an incorrect value.
I installed the latest firmwate 3.5.1.
Is it possible to update the entities so that battery, voltage and bottom and top limits are properly exposed?
I also need to look into merging both motors into one device or scene that makes the blind work like one TDBU device, because atm you need to keep in mind that both motors can go fully up and down and that can create a tangled mess.
Thanks!
Kind regards,
Jeb
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@jerry_bboy I am trying to make sense of what motors to choose for my new Bece honeycomb blinds.
I would like to go for Matter and use HA’s little USB stick to let HA become the border router. That would save me another hub, like the CM-55 that I would need to use with the Bluetooth/433 motors.
First question, I would love to not have any dependency on cloud connections, so for that reason, I would think Matter is the way to go, or will the CM-55 function without any dependency on a Motionblinds cloud?
Second, can you explain why IPV6 needs to be enabled on my router? I would prefer not to have a public IPV6 address. If I enable it, so I get an address assigned, then block all incoming and outgoing IPV6 on the WAN interface, would that work? In other words, would it suffice if I have local IPV6 support?
The Matter motors are unfortunately 100 Euro more expensive each. Guess you have to feed Eve 
With 6 blinds, that does get quite expensive and then the CM-55 becomes an alternative… Tough decisions…
So it’s quite easy, if you don’t want a bridge go for Eve motionblinds and you’ll have thread enabled devices.
As you said it is indeed a bit more expensive, and with multiple motors it adds up. Making the bridge more cost effective. If you have a big house you might need multiple bridges, if your thread network isnt that big you might need full thread devices like an eve energy for example. Eve motionblinds uses mesh networking where as the bridge is a point to point connection over 433mhz.
The bridge is not cloud dependent also because of matter so it will work even if our cloud would be down. Regarding the ipv6 that’s something that matter needs to work properly. Hopefully this helps.