Silvercrest / Lidl Smarthome

Feature Requests
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@Jakub.Vitik Nice, though any chance you can take another picture with a flash or better lights?

The picture is a little too blurry to read the text on the smaller chips and guess that is lack of lighting? It would also be best to save in PNG format instead of JPG due to it having worse compression artefacts.

Regardless it looks like might have put their own sticker on-top of the WiFi SoC chip so it could be an ESP8266 or ESP32 but the easiest way to tell would probably to remove that sticker and take a picture of the bare chip without that sticker. Another more advanced option way would be to probe the pins.

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I just bought one in Switzerland. Will try to post pictures later. The big sticker is on a blank metal housing. Not sure yet how to remove it to see the chip which is underneat without breaking somehting.

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I can confirm that the string lights work with ZHA, no effects available and color accuracy is poor.

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Hmm, that’s too bad. But maybe it can be improved with a proper entry in zigpy. Don’t know how to do that unfortunately.

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MattWestb from the Tasmota community pointed out that definitely is just a rebranded version of the standard Tuya TYGWZ-01 Zigbee Smart Life Gateway (TYGWZ01) hardware in a other enclosure so that means that the FCC has more pictures of the board here including those without that metal casing:

https://fccid.io/2ANDL-TYGWZ01

https://fccid.io/2ANDL-TYZS4

https://zigbeealliance.org/zigbee_products/tuya-smart-gateway/

As can see it has unfortunately not an ESP8266 or ESP32 WiFi SoC but instead that RTL8196E is the WiFi/MCU SoC from Realtek running Linux as its operating system, and underneath that metal housing is only the Zigbee chip from Silicon Labs which is an EFR32 Series 1 (previous generation) thus similar to that what is on the Sonoff ZBBridge by ITead though it features an EFR32 Series 2 (newest generation) of Zigbee SoC.

Regardless it using RTL8196E WiFi/MCU chipset instead of ESP8266/ESP32 means no support for Tasmota.

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Could be that each advanced device will need a quirk in ZHA Devices Handlers to access all attributes.

Check out the “ZHA EXCEPTION AND DEVIATION HANDLING” section in the ZHA documentation:

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I tried to add the Window/Door sensor through Phoscon (on a ConBee II) but nothing is detected.

So my options are:

  • Return it;
  • Wait for a deCONZ update (how long does it usually take for a device to be added?);
  • Do something, maybe in deCONZ GUI, to make Phoscon recognize it (how?).

What should I do in this case? Sorry for the dumb/n00b question, I’m fairly new to this.

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What is the best option to use with Lidl Sensors Conbee II or Sonoff ZB Bridge (Tasmota)?

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I just understood. Sounds very strange, but you can´t mix color_temp, kelvin and brightness within the same service.
Apparently, this problem appears with others bulbs :slight_smile:

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I would recommend conbee II. So you can integrate almost all types of zigbee devices

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After first tests I can confirm:

Gateway
The board matches exactly the TYGWZ01 pictures of the FCC
The Lidl Home app is a copy of the Tuya Smart with less functions.
Unfortunately I was not able to add the gateway to the Tuya app which would have allowed to use tuyapi

Power strip
In the official app you can toggle the 3 outlets, but USB is always on (as mentioned above), even if main power switch is off.

200 LED strip christmas light IP44
In the official app there is: color with brightness or 16 scenes with following options:

[Name] [Options]
Steady (color)
Snow (color, speed)
Rainbow (speed)
Snake (color list up to 6, speed)
Twinkle (color list up to 2, speed)
Fireworks (color, speed)
Horizontal Flag (color list up to 3, speed)
Waves (color list up to 3, speed)
Updown (color list up to 2, speed
Vintage (color, speed)
Fading (color, speed)
Collide (color, speed)
Strobe (color list up to 5, speed)
Sparkles (color list up to 3, speed)
Carnival (color list up to 6, speed)
Glow (color list up to 6, speed)
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Thanks :slight_smile: looking forward to it.

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Unfortunately I was not able to add the gateway to the Tuya app which would have allowed to use tuyapi

Actually, this does seem to work. In the TuyaSmart app you’re able to add the SilverCrest gateway. It seems like you need to add the gateway as a Zigbee port instead of Zigbee gateway. After that, you can add other Zigbee devices and use the Tuya Integration in HA to control them.

If you won’t see any Tuya devices in HA, call one of the Tuya services in HA to force an update or just reload the Tuya Integration. I even had to create so called “Tap-to-run” events in the TuyaSmart app to workaround devices which couldn’t be found in HA (the Tuya Integration in HA is able to find these created events as well).

Although this works, I’m still about to buy a ConBee II instead of using online services and using all these workarounds to get things done. But for now, ey it works.

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I have just updated Tuya app on my android device and now it seems to recognize the Lidl zigbee gateway. It seems to work as if it was a Tuya original gateway. You can also add all the other Lidl zigbee devices (I have the remote and 4 bulbs and they work seamlessly)
I think this is good news and Lidl devices remain a good option.

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Got my order in today here at the Netherlands. My findings so far: Lidl has released a bunch of inexpensive Zigbee 3.0 certified smart devices

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After the second motion sensor i found the way that is working for me flawlessly with the sonoff Zbbridge flashed with Tasmota:

  1. power on the device and put the lid back on so the button on the rear gets activated.

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  2. In home assistant, go to your zigbee coordinator, click ‘add new devices’ and then ‘show logs’. (is not required but i like to see stuff popping up.)

  3. Reset the sensor with the small pin on the right side for about 5 seconds until the top light flashes green.

Wait about 30 seconds and it should connect just fine

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Have you integrated your deCONZ into HA (or Node Red) ? Some Zigbee devices do not show up as actual entities, but they generate events which can be seen in HA (or Node Red) and these events can then be used to trigger automations.

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deCONZ is integrated into HA through the Phoscon app, but Phoscon was never able to even detect the sensor.

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Well the Xmas lights do pair with ZHA but only gives us ON/OFF and brightness (for white light).
The Zigbee signature is

{
  "node_descriptor": "NodeDescriptor(byte1=1, byte2=64, mac_capability_flags=142, manufacturer_code=4098, maximum_buffer_size=82, maximum_incoming_transfer_size=82, server_mask=11264, maximum_outgoing_transfer_size=82, descriptor_capability_field=0)",
  "endpoints": {
    "1": {
      "profile_id": 260,
      "device_type": "0x0102",
      "in_clusters": [
        "0x0000",
        "0x0003",
        "0x0004",
        "0x0005",
        "0x0006",
        "0x0008",
        "0x0300",
        "0xef00"
      ],
      "out_clusters": [
        "0x000a",
        "0x0019"
      ]
    },
    "242": {
      "profile_id": 41440,
      "device_type": "0x0102",
      "in_clusters": [],
      "out_clusters": [
        "0x0021"
      ]
    }
  },
  "manufacturer": "_TZE200_s8gkrkxk",
  "model": "TS0601",
  "class": "zigpy.device.Device"
}

The device name generated by ZHA does mention color but unfortunately not working.
We do need a new quirck to make it work I guess.

added:
device_type: 0x102 = colour dimmable light
in_clusters: 0x300 = color control
So seems it does have the required functions.