Oh ok, too bad
This is not an SIP intercom, itâs an analog one, the video feed is sent directly over the wire instead of being connected to ethernet
So yeah that wonât work, youâd need some kind of analog to SIP converter or another doorbell for it to work
Ah so itâs possible with that convertor? Also with video feed? Also possible to hear the persons and open door and stuff like that?
Reading the specs of the intercom you sent I think not, itâs not a 4 wire analog but indeed a 2 wire digital and proprietary interface, so no luck there, it wonât work.
No other choice than changing the doorbell
While currently SIP has no implementation in HA (thatâs why there is this thread)
It will be in the near future, and then yes it will be possible to have both way audio and video feeds
For door opening though thatâs a bit more complex as there is no specs on the matter, I know some doorbells listen for a DTMF Message on the SIP call (eg: pressing the * or the # on a SIP phone), but not all
SIP DTMF will be supported
The door opening depends on the doorbell system. Mine can do with DTMF, or an API. However, due to wiring issue, in my case the âdoor openingâ is done by a separate entity that has its own API. It means that the open door function will be a buton in the interface doing something.
@Tofandel ideally on the SIP phone interface, I would just need two buttons. Green to answer and Red to end it. I would like to avoid having the digits as a ânormalâ phone. It should really look like a doorbell system and not a phone
GV
oh, you gave me hope , thats a real bummer
this is the correct intercom i have
on page 7 you can see the wire installation
its indeed 2 wire
why is that not possible and a 4 wire system is ?
I wasnât planing to have it look like a phone
Just an option to configure the door open button with a custom DTMF message or/and to trigger an HA automation
@pergola.fabio Itâs because 4 wires are fully analog, meaning each wire correspond to one signal: ground, audio, video, power allowing you to plug the converter I previously sent
On the other hand 2 wires means itâs a serial connection which is digitally encoded, likely manufacturer dependent and that is why the same device doesnât exist for 2 wires because you wouldnât be able to decode/encode the signal to communicate with the doorbell
ah ok, thx for the information
gonna send a mail to that factury, maybe they have something like a convertor, or maybe want to share me some more details
thnx again for info
3 buttons would be great : answer, reject/hang up for the phone call and one to open the door.
hey, sorry to disturb again
but i may have found something for my entrya system
https://shop.seculux.be/nl-be/facila-dt161-kit-2x-ip-module-router-104712?print=1
guide : https://shop.seculux.be/content/files/manuals/Entrya/Facila/Fiches/Facila%20DT161%20IP%20(NL%20FR%20EN).pdf
seems to be a kit , to make/connect multiple intercoms to connect on IP, seems its based on SIP
2 nodes with 1 router
SIP is always an open system right? so am i correct if i just buy 1 node, connect that node to a SIP software server like asterisk, that i might be able to go forward? to intercept video , accept call ?
Hmm, I donât see any mention of SIP for that device.
IP & SIP are different things, IP usually referring to VOIP enabled and SIP being a protocol over VOIP but not all VOIP support SIP
So youâd have to ask the manufacturer if it supports the SIP protocol
However you are correct as in Asterisk can act as a gateway since it supports all VOIP protocols, it should be able to connect to the node and communicate via SIP to the rest
But I cannot confirm as I donât have enough knowledge in that area
Ok, thnx, Iâll askâŚ
I see though,that the nodes are only available to configure in 192.168.243.x range⌠If itâs sip, how I resolve that? My network is differentâŚ
My router does support iptv⌠Do I need to give up 2 ports, one for the node and one for a sip server?.. Or alternatives?
If I am correct, the kit comes with a router that will sit between your door system and your network. So, the routing between the Facila (192.168.243.0/24 network) and yours.
However, the documentation is pretty light. So, I donât know what this IP interface will give you.
Depending on the price of this gateway and your wiring situation, it might be simpler (and cheaper) to go for a new kit with native SIP capabilities.
GV
it can also bought as ip node seperatly, if it supports SIP, i dont need the whole kit, dont need that router, just 1 node : https://shop.seculux.be/nl-be/facila-dt161-ip-module-104709
maybe the node isnt that expensive ⌠no idea, i dont see prices on that shop
changing a new, kit, i think thats more expensive, the intercom i have now, was like 700âŹ
i have a outdoor kit, with code keypad so i can open the door and also 2 video intercoms for inside
no idea what a new SIP kit costs, but it will be more expensive i think
The GDS3710 I am using is less than 400 euros. Then, for the screen an android tablet is OK.
So, depending on the extra stuff you will need, it make sense to double check if changing the kit is cheaper or not.
You also need to understand what putting IP on your current doorbell will give you. The documentation doesnât say that at all.
GV
thx, yeah, gonna wait on some feedback about that ip node
Hi guys, before the hijacking this thread looked very promising
I have a 2N doorbell Iâm happy to beta-test things on, if it can help!
Have you seen this : https://community.home-assistant.io/t/wip-doordroid-smart-doorbell-with-lovelace-integration-video-and-2-way-audio-without-cloud/118099 ? Something to share between the two projects?
GV
Maybe a WebRTC client that can talk to a CPaaS provider (Twilio, Nexmo, Apidaze,âŚ) makes more sense? Feels more "web, lightweight & modern) than a full swing SIP stack.
@Tofandel @jiiins
Hello,
Thanks to the information provided in https://community.home-assistant.io/t/wip-doordroid-smart-doorbell-with-lovelace-integration-video-and-2-way-audio-without-cloud/118099 and additional support from @rdehuyss I have something that works !! My GDS 3710 calls my Android tablet and I can talk using webrtc. I am still working on some changes in doordroid.js provided by rdehuyss to improve the card. With my abyssal ignorance of javascript, my âimprovementsâ are very likely offences to true JS developers. However, at least it starts doing what I want to do. I am still working on it but I should be able to post my design in a week or two.
GV