The Current State of MyQ - From the codeowner

I believe GitHub - FlareSolverr/FlareSolverr: Proxy server to bypass Cloudflare protection is the add-on that Jackett is using, if that helps.

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I have a standalone instance of flaresolverr running that I use for Prowlarr.

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For my Garage Door I simply use a Mimo Z-Wave device, itā€™s never let me down and I donā€™t have to fuss with external integrations. Prior to that I used the Insteon equivalent of the IOLinc.

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People keep saying this, but what are the alternatives? Chamberlain/MyQ has a 75% marketshareā€¦ the remaining choices are Genie/Aladdin Connect, who has sued to stop other garage door manufacturers from saving power by turning off the photoeyes when not in use, including when running on battery power, and sues competitors out of existance, and Nortek/Linear/Niceā€¦ which, while they seem supportive of open standards and open APIs as a company, their products are just very weak and incomplete. Even though they are the most open, AFAIK there is not even a Home Assistant integration for it. This industry is patent heavyā€¦ Every new comer gets sued out of it. Ryobi made a nice GDO, but they got sued and had an injunction to stop them from selling it.

And for more advanced users, Chamberlain is the ONLY ones offering a full lineup of integrated products. They sell remotes with integrated HID tags, their remotes work with door access control systems, gates, etcā€¦ I do property management. I got 100+ gates, doors, and garage doors that are tied to one remote. I can give these remotes to those on my team and control where they can go, and have full access logs of something that can reliably know if the garage doors are open or closed, without using battery devices or magnets that fall offā€¦ Other then myQ, I know of no other solution where I can revoke remotes of employees individually without resetting every one on a garage door opener. They created a very slick product and ecosystem, its unfortunate they are a crap company.

Iā€™ve tried a lot of other solutionsā€¦ Iā€™ve tried the Linear Zwave GDO products, OpenGarage,etcā€¦ the only one that even comes close to myQ is ratgdo. Infact, ratgdo seems better in a lot of ways then myQ (Iā€™m hoping they can integrate the missing features)ā€¦ but it still only works on myQ garage doors because theyā€™re the only company that actually has a full control protocol available on the motors.

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Disable the integration for 6 hours (to be safe) then re-enable it with the polling disabled.

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From what you wrote, youā€™ll be casting your vote for MyQ again. I certainly understand your point. From a non-business perspective, iā€™d rather use someone else. For now iā€™ll be hooking up a ratgdo. I certainly wonā€™t be adding more money in MyQ pockets by subscribing to services like the Tesla Connect.

Youā€™re not wrong but we really do vote with our money.

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FYI, Mazda is NOT Ford, they are entirely seperate. Ford actually documents their API fully, and as far as I know, is the only one who does not charge anything for remote access to their FordPass infrastructure, including over cellular. Ford even offered free upgrades to the cellular modems from 2G to 3G to 4G when the cell towers were shut down. Ford has been marketing heavily to companies that their platform (Ford Pro) is well documented and opened to integrate into their systems. AFAIK, Ford is the most open car manufacturer as far as APIā€™s other then Teslaā€¦ although it is all still cloud based and theyā€™ve had their issues (rate limiting API calls and such being a big one).

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I really want an alternative. But the alternative to buying Chamberlain products is to give up all the features that myQ gives us. You get a better product by buying a Chamberlain operator and buying a ratgdo.

Since Iā€™m in a related business, I buy a TON of Chamberlain products. I have a sales rep at Chamberlain (and Iā€™ve contacted them about it, my sales rep has made it clear theyā€™re aware they no there is no alternative, and they got the patents so they donā€™t care, he also told me that all of the partners are required to pay Chamberlain for API access, so Home Assistant being open source is going to be a non-starter). If you give me an alternative, I would switch. But the alternative canā€™t be ā€œbuy this other solution that does everything a lot worse, and is worse then if myQ didnā€™t exist in the first placeā€.

Also to be clear, Iā€™m doing everything I can to avoid subscribing any of our accounts to their paid subscription services. Everyone should buy ratgdo. Iā€™m trying to figure out how many more of them I need to order now, Iā€™ve already order a bunch of them and might end up buying a TON of them to get off the myQ cloud, but Iā€™m stuck buying their openers

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My personal experience with my own 2015-2019 Fords and FordPass says otherwiseā€¦ If itā€™s got better then fantastic. But fair enough. I will agree they are separate after the partnership dissolved in '15

That said Iā€™m still calling every single company out that behaves like this. If they want you to pay fine. Just be honest about it. :slight_smile: ā€¦itā€™s about securityā€¦ We all know better.

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Make sure to take your myq system offline so they canā€™t push an update that disables that solution.

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Thank you @Lash-L for all of your hard work. I have been trying to assist in the testing process, and it is a very frustrating experience.

I have already started to make recommendationā€™s to my friends, family, and online sources to not recommend MyQ if they want to be able to use a home automation system like Home Assistant. I have also ordered a ratgdo and would recommend that others consider this step (if anything, buy a simple little ESP8266 and do the setup for it).

I think all of us should also generalize this for more public consumption. MyQ has an agenda. They want to reduce cost and increase revenue. They will follow this pattern until they start seeing a decision causing a financial impact. People beyond Home Assistant need to understand the fact that they are not allowing this type of access makes it so you have to have a different app for every type of service that you want to manage in your home. This is a ridiculous request and should be highlighted. Want to use a garage door opener your existing automation solutionā€¦sorry, not possible. End-users could care less about APIā€™s and the stuff weā€™re talking about hereā€¦but force them to use some crappy app for every service that they want to control - youā€™ll at least see comments and traction around that in addition to the HA/HB community.

Either way - Iā€™m personally done with MyQ. I will never buy or enable a garage door system that uses these types of practices. I am vocalizing this to everyone that I know as well - all of us should do the same.

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A small recommendation: just in case MyQ tries to pull a Mazda and send a DMCA takedown to ratgdo, take an offline backup or clone of the repository (and the esphome port if applicable).

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so why the heck do the even bother to make an API available?? if its just for them to use? or unless its only for their ā€œpartnersā€
these guys are really pathetic anyways, they dont even integrate w Google Home or Alexa it looks like, what a joke
But they do support IFTT (really? wtf??) which I actually do happen to have a subscription for, so am in the process of rigging something between HA-IFTT-MyQ, am sure ill figure something out but this totally sucks from them, this is common from all these tech wannabe companies that want to stand out, but be cheap as hell no matter whatā€¦am going to blast them on twitter too

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"my sales rep has made it clear theyā€™re aware they no there is no alternative, and they got the patents so they donā€™t care, he also told me that all of the partners are required to pay Chamberlain for API access, so Home Assistant being open source is going to be a non-starter). "

he is just some sales guy that doesnt know jack about techā€¦patents for a garage door opener? LMAO!!..I am not making fun of you at all @YBonline , but is just how I can imagine their patents are (loopholes, etc)
No one should expect them to use their API for free, I suspect their profit margins arent the likes of a tech company and they are probably already paying for hosting their API in some cloud somewhere,

but if you do APIs correctly, as far as API engineering goes, you can have a partner channel API and consumer channel API, and then have away with subscriptions, this is done all over the place, even smaller companies than them.

Thank you for the update. Thatā€™s pretty frustrating.

If you purchased your MyQ from Amazon, I would recommend leaving a review on the product. That might help get some attention from Chamberlain on the subject.

https://www.amazon.com/review/create-review/edit?ie=UTF8&channel=glance-detail&asin=B08GD3D9YJ

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Thanks for your work on this!

Super Frustrating ā€“ of course this is all revenue driven. Their app is so annoyingly filled with ads and now they want you to ā€œintegrateā€ with the Acura App, the Honda App, etcā€¦ and pay $129 a year which they say is ā€œcompatible with CarPlay and Android Autoā€ ā€“ yeah, because its an APP that works through CarPlay or Android Auto. Apple has this already integrated for HomeKit devices and they donā€™t charge! And you want me to pay $129 a year to do it what it should be able to do for free?! Screw you MYQ.

They didnā€™t make the API available. Itā€™s a closed API they use with their app. The community just reverse engineered it from the official app. Ever since then itā€™s been cat and mouse.

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Thanks for the suggestion but no dice. The integration still wonā€™t log back in

For anyone worried about ratgdo back orders, I have created an open source schematic based on reverse engineering the ratgdo.

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A ton of people have been asking for this. Thanks!