Track when an entity is not triggered by an automation?

Configuration
1

I’m trying to create an automation that pauses another automation if said entity is not triggered by that automation (alas someone pressed the physical cover button) - however the following automation fails to do so

alias: "TV Stua: Administrere screens kortvegg automasjon"
description: ""
trigger:
  - platform: state
    entity_id:
      - automation.ta_ned_kortvegg_screens_ved_sol
    from: "on"
    for:
      hours: 2
      minutes: 0
      seconds: 0
    id: gjennoppta
  - platform: state
    entity_id:
      - cover.screen_kortvegg
    id: screen-endret
condition: []
action:
  - choose:
      - conditions:
          - condition: trigger
            id:
              - gjennoppta
        sequence:
          - service: automation.turn_on
            target:
              entity_id: automation.ta_ned_kortvegg_screens_ved_sol
            data: {}
      - conditions:
          - condition: trigger
            id:
              - screen-endret
          - condition: template
            value_template: >-
              {{ trigger.to_state.context.id is not none and
              trigger.to_state.context.parent_id is none and
              trigger.to_state.context.user_id is none }}
        sequence:
          - service: automation.turn_off
            data:
              stop_actions: true
            target:
              entity_id: automation.ta_ned_kortvegg_screens_ved_sol
mode: single

The following jinja code is supposed to detect if an an entity is triggered by an automation, however I’ve observed that this jinja code also becomes true when the cover is triggered by an automation?

{{ trigger.to_state.context.id is not none and trigger.to_state.context.parent_id is none and trigger.to_state.context.user_id is none }}
2

Automation turn_on is controlling the ability of the automation to check for triggers. It is not triggering it nor is there an auto way to check it it triggered. You would need to program in an event or a helper to monitor that, aside from filtering a state change event or something.
Automation services - Home Assistant.

3

I use this methodology to grab the Context of what changed an entity.

The example given sets a new sensor to either of physical, dashboard_ui, automation or unknown.

I have another automation that turns off the original automation if the context is physical (example a user flipped a switch).

4

Updated my automation to use event plattform and the event state_changed as trigger

alias: "TV Stua: Administrere screens kortvegg automasjon"
description: ""
trigger:
  - platform: state
    entity_id:
      - automation.ta_ned_kortvegg_screens_ved_sol
    from: "on"
    for:
      hours: 2
      minutes: 0
      seconds: 0
    id: gjennoppta
  - platform: event
    event_type: state_changed
    event_data:
      entity_id: cover.screen_kortvegg
    id: screen-endret
condition: []
action:
  - choose:
      - conditions:
          - condition: trigger
            id:
              - gjennoppta
        sequence:
          - service: automation.turn_on
            target:
              entity_id: automation.ta_ned_kortvegg_screens_ved_sol
            data: {}
      - conditions:
          - condition: trigger
            id:
              - screen-endret
          - condition: template
            value_template: >-
              {{ trigger.to_state.context.id is not none and
              trigger.to_state.context.parent_id is none and
              trigger.to_state.context.user_id is none }}
        sequence:
          - service: automation.turn_off
            data:
              stop_actions: true
            target:
              entity_id: automation.ta_ned_kortvegg_screens_ved_sol
mode: single

However I noticed it’s erroring when doing the check against to_state attributes, is that what you’re referring to?

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I’m sure @VPC solution will work, but if I could avoid an helper entity for this it would be awesome (less clutter)