Hi, I truly am blown away with all the community support. The detailed replies are very welcoming.
@Remko as I don’t have any batteries what do I need to delete from your energy config file?
Hi, I truly am blown away with all the community support. The detailed replies are very welcoming.
@Remko as I don’t have any batteries what do I need to delete from your energy config file?
hey! I have a SE7600H. I can read meter data just fine, but I can’t seem to read battery data or any of the control data. Using a command-line modbus tool, I can read registers for the meters and inverter, but none of the registers described in the power control pdf are available. This means I can’t view/change export limitations or read battery stats at all. In fact, when I enable reading battery data, the whole integration just fails.
Did I neglect to enable some setting on my inverter that allows those to appear over modbus? I’m 99% sure the problem is that my inverter isn’t exposing that data in the expected place. I’m happy to bother SolarEdge to see if they moved the registers or something, I’d just like to make sure that I’m not doing something silly first.
@athanbako Basically everything with “battery” in the name… I think @SgtBatten did this for himself, so maybe he can share his config file with you.
That is strange… are you using the “SolarEdge modbus” integration I referenced in my first post? I did not have to do anything special to get the battery data, it just showed up automatically.
I am currently also testing the “MultiInverter” (https://github.com/WillCodeForCats/solaredge-modbus-multi) fork of this integration and that may be my way for the future. I am still having some minor issues with this, so I did not post a changed config, but it is not hard to change my config to match that integration. So you may want to try that out and see if that does give you the proper data.
yup, I’m using the non-multi solaredge modbus integration, but the multi-inverter integration also doesn’t work. I’m really quite certain that my inverter isn’t exposing any of the battery or power control registers. I was able to successfully read a random sampling of inverter, meter 1, and meter 2 registers manually, but none of the offsets for the battery or power control are available. I’ll bug SolarEdge I guess, it’s pretty obvious that it’s not exposing stuff in the expected location. No integration will work if the data’s not there.
energy.yaml for setups without a battery / batteries.
template:
- sensor:
- name: "Solar Selfconsumption Ratio"
unique_id: solar_selfconsumption_ratio
icon: mdi:percent-outline
state: >
{% if (states('sensor.solar_panel_to_house_daily')| float(0) + states('sensor.solar_exported_power_daily')| float(0)) <= 0 %}
0
{% else %}
{{ (((states('sensor.solar_panel_to_house_daily')| float(0)) / (states('sensor.solar_panel_to_house_daily')| float(0) + states('sensor.solar_exported_power_daily')| float(0))) * 100) | round (0) }}
{% endif %}
- name: "Solar Autarkie Ratio"
unique_id: solar_autarkie_ratio
icon: mdi:percent-outline
state: >
{% if ((states('sensor.solar_house_consumption_daily') | float(0)) <= 0) %}
0
{% else %}
{{((1 - ((states('sensor.solar_imported_power_daily') | float(0)) / (states('sensor.solar_house_consumption_daily') | float(0)))) * 100 ) | round (0)}}
{% endif %}
- name: "Solar Inverter Effectiveness"
unique_id: solar_inverter_effectiveness
icon: mdi:percent-outline
unit_of_measurement: "%"
state: >
{% if ((states('sensor.solaredge_dc_power') | float(0)) < 100) or ((states('sensor.solaredge_ac_power') | float(0)) < 100)%}
{{(states('sensor.solar_inverter_effectiveness'))}}
{% else %}
{% if is_state('sensor.solar_inverter_effectiveness', 'unknown') %}
1
{% elif ((states('sensor.solaredge_ac_power') | float(0)) <= 0) %}
{{(states('sensor.solar_inverter_effectiveness'))}}
{% elif ((states('sensor.solaredge_dc_power') | float(0)) <= 0) %}
{{(states('sensor.solar_inverter_effectiveness'))}}
{% else %}
{{(states('sensor.solaredge_ac_power') | float(0)) / (states('sensor.solaredge_dc_power') | float(0))}}
{% endif %}
{% endif %}
- name: "Solar Panel Production W"
unique_id: solar_panel_production_w
unit_of_measurement: "W"
icon: mdi:solar-power
state: >
{% if states('sensor.solaredge_dc_power') | float(0) <= 0 %}
0
{% elif is_state('sensor.solaredge_dc_power', 'unknown') %}
0
{% else %}
{{ states('sensor.solaredge_dc_power') | float(0) }}
{% endif %}
- name: "Solar Panel To House W"
unique_id: solar_panel_to_house_w
unit_of_measurement: "W"
icon: mdi:solar-power
state: >
{% if states('sensor.solaredge_m1_ac_power') | float(0) > 0 %}
{{(states('sensor.solaredge_ac_power') | float(0) - states('sensor.solaredge_m1_ac_power') | float(0))}}
{% elif states('sensor.solaredge_m1_ac_power') | float(0) < 0 %}
{{states('sensor.solaredge_ac_power') | float(0)}}
{% elif ((states('sensor.solaredge_dc_power') | float(0)) < 0)%}
0
{% else %}
{{(states('sensor.solaredge_dc_power') | float(0)) * (states('sensor.solar_inverter_effectiveness') | float(0))}}
{% endif %}
- name: "Solar Grid To House W"
unique_id: solar_grid_to_house_w
unit_of_measurement: "W"
icon: mdi:transmission-tower-export
state: >
{% if ((states('sensor.solaredge_m1_ac_power') | float(0)) <= 0) %}
{{((states('sensor.solaredge_m1_ac_power') | float(0)) *-1)}}
{% else %}
0
{% endif %}
- name: "Solar Panel To Grid W"
unique_id: solar_panel_to_grid_w
unit_of_measurement: "W"
icon: mdi:solar-power
state: >
{% if ((states('sensor.solaredge_m1_ac_power') | float(0)) > 0) %}
{{(states('sensor.solaredge_m1_ac_power') | float(0))}}
{% else %}
0
{% endif %}
- name: "Solar House Consumption W"
unique_id: solar_house_consumption_w
unit_of_measurement: "W"
icon: mdi:home
state: >
{{(states('sensor.solar_panel_to_house_w') | float(0)) + (states('sensor.solar_grid_to_house_w') | float(0))}}
- name: "Solar Imported Power W"
unique_id: solar_imported_power_w
unit_of_measurement: "W"
icon: mdi:transmission-tower-export
state: >
{% if ((states('sensor.solaredge_m1_ac_power') | float(0)) <= 0) %}
{{((states('sensor.solaredge_m1_ac_power') | float(0)) *-1)}}
{% else %}
0
{% endif %}
- name: "Solar Exported Power W"
unique_id: solar_exported_power_w
unit_of_measurement: "W"
icon: mdi:transmission-tower-import
state: >
{% if ((states('sensor.solaredge_m1_ac_power') | float(0)) > 0) %}
{{(states('sensor.solaredge_m1_ac_power') | float(0))}}
{% else %}
0
{% endif %}
- name: "Solar Lifetime Production"
unique_id: solar_lifetime_production
unit_of_measurement: "MWh"
icon: mdi:solar-power
state: >
{{(((states('sensor.solaredge_ac_energy_kwh') | float(0)) / 1000) | round (2))}}
sensor:
- platform: integration
source: sensor.solar_panel_production_w
method: left
unit_prefix: k
name: solar_panel_production_kwh
- platform: integration
source: sensor.solar_house_consumption_w
method: left
unit_prefix: k
name: solar_house_consumption_kwh
- platform: integration
source: sensor.solar_imported_power_w
method: left
unit_prefix: k
name: solar_imported_power_kwh
- platform: integration
source: sensor.solar_exported_power_w
method: left
unit_prefix: k
name: solar_exported_power_kwh
- platform: integration
source: sensor.solar_panel_to_house_w
method: left
unit_prefix: k
name: solar_panel_to_house_kwh
- platform: statistics
name: "Solar Inverter Effectiveness Average"
unique_id: solar_inverter_effectiveness_average
state_characteristic: mean
sampling_size: 1200
max_age:
hours: 24
entity_id: sensor.solar_inverter_effectiveness
utility_meter:
solar_panel_production_daily:
source: sensor.solar_panel_production_kwh
name: Solar Panel Production Daily
cycle: daily
solar_house_consumption_daily:
source: sensor.solar_house_consumption_kwh
name: Solar House Consumption Daily
cycle: daily
solar_imported_power_daily:
source: sensor.solar_imported_power_kwh
name: Solar Imported Power Daily
cycle: daily
solar_imported_power_daily_solaredge:
source: sensor.solaredge_m1_imported_kwh
name: Solar Imported Power Daily Solar Edge
cycle: daily
solar_exported_power_daily:
source: sensor.solar_exported_power_kwh
name: Solar Exported Power Daily
cycle: daily
solar_panel_to_house_daily:
source: sensor.solar_panel_to_house_kwh
name: Solar Panel To House Daily
cycle: daily
solar_panel_to_house_weekly:
source: sensor.solar_panel_to_house_kwh
name: Solar Panel To House Weekly
cycle: weekly
solar_imported_power_weekly:
source: sensor.solar_imported_power_kwh
name: Solar Imported Power Weekly
cycle: weekly
solar_house_consumption_weekly:
source: sensor.solar_house_consumption_kwh
name: Solar House Consumption Weekly
cycle: weekly
solar_panel_production_weekly:
source: sensor.solar_panel_production_kwh
name: Solar Panel Production Weekly
cycle: weekly
solar_exported_power_weekly:
source: sensor.solar_exported_power_kwh
name: Solar Exported Power Weekly
cycle: weekly
solar_panel_to_house_monthly:
source: sensor.solar_panel_to_house_kwh
name: Solar Panel To House Monthly
cycle: monthly
solar_imported_power_monthly:
source: sensor.solar_imported_power_kwh
name: Solar Imported Power Monthly
cycle: monthly
solar_house_consumption_monthly:
source: sensor.solar_house_consumption_kwh
name: Solar House Consumption Monthly
cycle: monthly
solar_panel_production_monthly:
source: sensor.solar_panel_production_kwh
name: Solar Panel Production Monthly
cycle: monthly
solar_exported_power_monthly:
source: sensor.solar_exported_power_kwh
name: Solar Exported Power Monthly
cycle: monthly
solar_panel_to_house_yearly:
source: sensor.solar_panel_to_house_kwh
name: Solar Panel To House Yearly
cycle: yearly
solar_imported_power_yearly:
source: sensor.solar_imported_power_kwh
name: Solar Imported Power Yearly
cycle: yearly
solar_house_consumption_yearly:
source: sensor.solar_house_consumption_kwh
name: Solar House Consumption Yearly
cycle: yearly
solar_panel_production_yearly:
source: sensor.solar_panel_production_kwh
name: Solar Panel Production Yearly
cycle: yearly
solar_exported_power_yearly:
source: sensor.solar_exported_power_kwh
name: Solar Exported Power Yearly
cycle: yearly
@Remko perhaps you might link to this post in the OP to save repeat questions?
*note I made extensive name changes to my own file so i’ve just edited the OP here right now. It is possible I’ve deleted one too many brackets by accident so any troubleshooting should start there (and please let me know so I can fix for the next person.)
Bonus link to my guide for handling complex demand tariffs that we seem to be getting in Australia.
It does sound like your inverter either has a problem or just simply does not expose the data as we have seen so far. So yes, maybe Solaredge can help you here, I am afraid I cannot…
I am having the same issue with a SE7600H-US; battery information does not show, but everything else is present. I’ve tried debugging with the solaredge_modbus library in python, and I can’t get that to return anything either.
If you’re using the Solaredge cloud monitoring platform, I’d be curious how the following information looks on your “Analysis” tab? The Battery 1.2 part doesn’t look right to me.
Hi, I just had a LAN line installed this morning and MODBus is talking to my install. Unfortunately, your template is indeed broken. It appears to be somewhere in the first section.
Really looking forward to getting this going. Not sure I will syntax my way out of this one but I may try. Best if you can please provide a fix.
Thank you kindly,
Thanks, try now. Found 2 broken things and have edited the post.
Yeah man. Rock and roll.
Cheers!
This had been frustrating for the last six months.
Looks like SolarEdge have re-enabled ModbusTCP over wifi with the new firmware release!
Nice work.
Except for Australia?
Does it mean we just have a different firmware number, not that the update isn’t applicable?
It looks like Australia might still be on the older version. Maybe it’ll be updated in the future?
@Remko I have to thank you a lot, that‘s the solution I was searching for ages!!
On that base I was able to integrate an easy automation for predictive charging to maximize the daily production (my system is limited to 50% active power) and care a bit more gently about the storage.
I’d like to share it. Though this is my first try on ha as a newbie and I can’t guarantee a seamless function. The automation is running a few days now. Note, that the charge limit will be exceeded as soon as the power production is higher than self consumption plus export limit (plus charge limit). That’s the neat trick for the available control modes. Every sunset one of the two following automations showing at the end resets “Storage Control” back to “Maximize Self Consumption”, to not mess up the buggy solaredge monitoring values.
At first I created an account type “My home PV system only” at Solcast, which gives me better data since you are able to create two roofs. I have three different roof alignments, so I middled out the angles of two areas to reach the available ammount of two roofs. The API will throw the data-set as addition of both roofs.
As next I installed the Solcast PV Solar hacs integration and replaced the original forecast integration at the energy dashboard.
Finaly this two automations are running:
- id: 'xxxxxxxxxxxx'
alias: PV abends auf Max. Eigenverbrauch
description: ''
trigger:
- platform: sun
event: sunset
offset: 0
condition: []
action:
- service: select.select_option
data:
option: Maximize Self Consumption
target:
entity_id: select.solaredge_storage_control_mode
mode: single
- id: 'xxxxxxxxxxxx'
alias: PV Überschussladen prüfen/aktivieren
description: Morgens Prüfung, ob SolCast-API polled und Grenzwerte (Ertrag und Peak-Energie
in kW/h) für Überschussladen erreicht werden. Zuerst Speicher auf x% laden wenn
Wert darunter, danach Ladeleistung reduzieren, bis Prognose-Restenergie für den
Tag kritischen Wert erreicht, um Speicher voll zu laden. Nach Unterschreitung
wieder max. Ladeleistung.
trigger:
- platform: time
at: 06:15:00
condition:
- condition: numeric_state
entity_id: sensor.solcast_peak_forecast_today
above: '3200'
- condition: numeric_state
entity_id: sensor.solcast_forecast_today
above: '15'
- condition: numeric_state
entity_id: sensor.solcast_api_remaining
below: '50'
above: '45'
action:
- repeat:
until:
- condition: numeric_state
entity_id: sensor.solaredge_battery1_state_of_charge
above: '49'
sequence:
- delay:
hours: 0
minutes: 5
seconds: 0
milliseconds: 0
- service: select.select_option
data:
option: Remote Control
target:
entity_id: select.solaredge_storage_control_mode
- delay:
hours: 0
minutes: 0
seconds: 5
milliseconds: 0
- repeat:
until:
- condition: numeric_state
entity_id: sensor.solcast_forecast_remaining_today
below: '8'
sequence:
- service: number.set_value
data:
value: '240'
target:
entity_id: number.solaredge_storage_remote_charge_limit
- delay:
hours: 0
minutes: 15
seconds: 0
milliseconds: 0
- service: number.set_value
data:
value: '5000'
target:
entity_id: number.solaredge_storage_remote_charge_limit
mode: single
Maybe you found it out yourself in the meantime. If not, maybe we are talking about this issue:
The inverter’s and storage’s controllers self consumption are around 60-70W, which is not represented in the solaredge portal - guess why . So if at night the house consumption ist around 200W, the battery needs to deliver 270W. Thanks to your setup this ist visible. That big (and waste) consumption from the controllers was discussed at photovoltaikforum.com as well. Something we need to tolerate is the system consumes around ~570kWh/a just for running. But the hurting behavior comes up, if the battery is empty and the inverter+storage controllers are sucking the lasting electrons out of it until the grid needs to recharge it back up to 10% reserve. The quest to resolve is, that the inverter never goes to a „real“ standby if a battery is installed.
Hopefully we can trick this out by a smart automation like: If battery is empty (10%), and no production forecasted (better 30% “backup reserve” instead of 10% to extend battery’s state of health - at 10% the chemical aging will be high) shut down the battery for a time period, but don’t mess up the solaredge portals values also! This should make happen the inverter is going to sleep meanwhile at night as well and grid consumption will be about that 60-70w less.
Recently I didn’t dive deep enough to know how to realize that. Autumn and winter are coming. Maybe there’s folks out here which can support?
Hmm…very interesting information. Hadn’t thought about the fact that simply having the inverter and battery active actually consumes energy (fully logical of course). The other effect which is visible in my configuration is the fact that the battery itself varies it effectivness based on load and state of charge. I find these effects to be even more “dramatic” but that is just the nature of a battery of course.
To think about automations which would control the power usage of the inverter is an interesting thought. I am just not sure if that actually is possible, I mean; can we put the inverter in a sleep mode externally or does it even have such a thing…? But worth investigating more, I hope someone here might have some good ideas on that.
The battery effectivness in my understanding should be the ratio discharged:charged. But I am not shure how to fetch the datapoints correctly. Maybe it could be possible for fixed runs like:
Counting discharged energy from 100% down to 70% : charged energy from 70% up to 100%
But the more charges and discharges are pendling inbetween, the lower the effectivness might be.
I havn’t looked inside your code and didn’t try to understand it yet. My thought was: Okay, it seems the calculation is doing something like comparing house consumption vs. battery discharge. So for example if the house needs 150W and the battery delivers 220W (including 70W controller consumption) the value is 100 / 220 * 150 = 68%
, while a higher house consumption relatives the controller consumption: 100 / 670 * 600 = 90%
. I can go with that method, since this gives a better picture of how efficient the whole system performs after sunset. If I’m looking at the energy-dashboards battery in/out since recording started the battery is like 57% efficient (187,2kWh in, 106,9kWh out). Maybe that’s the truth. Can you check, if the “battery out” energy is fetched from the correct entity? Maybe it is the se’s lying one, which means the discussed 60-70W out aren’t considered.
To your last point:
If you set the inverter into “Control Mode” you are able to turn the storage “Off”. But I won’t mess around with it, until the battery is empty at night the following weeks/months.