I got it sorted by an extension. Now on local will be ok as long as I don’t change names of the device
Trial is now 1 month then you will have to pay.
Not sure weather you start again with new email?
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I’m at this point but can’t for the life of me figure out how to sign up for a subscription! Such an awful website. Any chance someone has a link to what I would need to subscribe to for the basic integration of some light switches which are currently integrated through Tuya cloud?
Thanks!
Follow this link for instructions on how to move on.
Apply for the Trial. Thus you wont get charged.
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With the latest esphome relase many (all?) tuya wifi device are now officially supported (realtek and beken based) and these type of devices can be completely owned 
I bought 2 thermostats from 2 different vendors. Both include the WBR3 module which is not (yet?) supported by ESPHome. Usually you do not know what’s inside a tuya device until you open it.
https://developer.tuya.com/en/docs/iot/wbr3-module-datasheet?id=K9dujs2k5nriy
I’m using tuya-local right now which fully supports this device.
Hello I did all the steps and the device " Gas sensor" is added and i got all the entities that i need. yet i cannot use them for automation. Where you able to overcome this ?
That sounds like a problem in your automation
Do you have issues with devices becoming unavailable? Drives me crazy… All devices have good Wifi coverage and are available without fail in the Tuya Smart app.
However in HA (tested on both Tuya Local and the official Tuya Integration) some of them go offline.
Given its multiple devices I have discarded the device itself being an issue. Device here bring RBGWW GU10 lightbulbs and outdoor RGB LED lights.
Yes I still have some go unavailable for short periods of time, but I find this happens with some other integrations too (ie. non-Tuya integrations). The local-tuya go unavailable less often and for a shorter duration. However, since I don’t much use the UI to control devices, I’ve never had it impact me. I feel that if a local tuya device is unavailable it can still be controlled with a service call, but I have no concrete proof. Obviously you can’t control it thru the UI, as that gets disabled.
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You could also try to set the “update interval” , on those Devices, as one reason for it to appear offline/unavailable, could be that it doesn’t update it self, or often enough, your settings in your could maybe also be “trimmed” , i.e if you have to short setting for when a Wifi device should be considered/reported unavailable.
IF it happens often for 1 specific Device, go to your Tuya Integration, click Configure, choose Edit Device, pick Device, Change settings for Update-Interval, set to i.e 30Seconds
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Has anyone been able to control the Elvita robot vacuum cleaner using Tuya Remote - or similar Tuya cloud independent techniques?
Just as a recent observation I have witnessed that Tuya products that were isolated from internet via a firewall rule were not fully working locally after all.
Example of smart plugs model SP22 : when firewalled and integrated via Local Tuya, the relay can still be controlled locally, but the sensors (current, power, voltage) are not updated after a while.
You remove the firewall rule, they catch up immediately and report sensor values again.
Personally I’m tired of these unpredictable and ever-changing Tuya products and I am progressively switching to Shelly products, when money allows, and they are so much better in term of remote/local control (among many many other advantages - quality, innovation, made in Europe, etc.).
I had once an extended internet failure at home and all Shelly products continued to work flawlessly, unlike the Tuya ones, despite the good efforts of the Local Tuya integration.
Just a personal observation over a few years of running HA with a mix of these products.
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I agree, not only are they not truly local, but Tuya keep changing the local key and then it falls over. It is a pity because the Deta/Tuya products are well made and good value. They are using the WB3S module, it can be flashed with OpenBeken and then controlled with MQTT. For me this is perfect. Rather than spend money changing the Tuya devices you could think of buying a decent soldering station and flash them with OpenBeken. I like Shelly too but for some things like power sockets Tuya is so much neater.
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I have been using the localtuya integration since 2022 and am now in the process of having to extend my trial. I can definitely see the following downfalls of using Tuya devices:
- requires setting up a developer account which requires periodic renewal (not guaranteed)
- not local
- can be convoluted to set up (depending on your tech knowledge)
I am tempted to move away from Tuya entirely as many other users have suggested. I don’t have an enormous amount of Tuya devices but these are the main problems that I foresee:
- There are some Tuya devices that are simply not readily available by other manufacturers/platforms. For example, most of my outdoor plugs are Tuya. The only other outdoor plug that I’m aware of is made by Wyze which is even worse for integration. Another device is a smart power bar. If anyone knows of a Zigbee equivalent, I’d be more than happy to switch over.
- Cost - it’s no surprise that Tuya devices are among the most affordable in the smart home industry. I’m happy to pay more but no necessarily 10x more.
@thehyperguy - I very much like Kasa / TP-Link / Tapo devices to provide those functions (outdoor smart plugs, smart power strips), and for many other functions. Yes they usually do need cloud connection at initial setup, and I find that certain device config/setup changes are available only in the Tapo app. But normal operation can run all local.
The TP-Link Smart Home integrations page for HA lists it as:
Its IoT class is Local Polling
Best of the best!
It scores platinum on our quality scale
Most devices are wifi (which requires a slight bit of network mgmt if you want to keep it local). They’ve also now got some BLE I believe, and most recent new devices support Matter.
This topic popped up in my “new and unread section” and I’ve spent a lot of time studying this and yeah… TL;DR zigbee is great, wifi not so great.
- tuya local and local tuya work… kinda
- cloudcutter no longer works on new devices
- serial flashing always works but is not for the feint of heart
I also made a video that goes in depth into each option:
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